released dates

released dates

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

Hi,

I needed to download the Emacs 24.2 tarball after all to know
when it was released[1].  It has not been recorded even in the
24.3 tarball.  Is there a way by any chance to do it in a local
copy of the bzr repository?

Thanks.

[1]
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83532/focus=83533

Re: released dates

[Glenn Morris]

Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> I needed to download the Emacs 24.2 tarball after all to know
> when it was released[1].  It has not been recorded even in the
> 24.3 tarball.  Is there a way by any chance to do it in a local
> copy of the bzr repository?

I don't really know what you are asking; but the revision corresponding
to 24.2 is tagged "emacs-24.2".

Re: released dates

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

Glenn Morris wrote:
> Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>> I needed to download the Emacs 24.2 tarball after all to know
>> when it was released[1].  It has not been recorded even in the
>> 24.3 tarball.  Is there a way by any chance to do it in a local
>> copy of the bzr repository?

> I don't really know what you are asking;

What I wanted to know then was whether a certain feature of Gnus
is in Emacs 24.x or not.  The date when the feature was added can
be found in the ChangeLog files, however it can't be known whether
it was done before or after the Emacs 24.x release; there is no
records in the normal files.  IIRC, there were all the ``released''
messages in the ChangeLog files.

> but the revision corresponding to 24.2 is tagged "emacs-24.2".

Xue Fuqiao wrote:
> You can use `-rtag:' in bzr:
>   $ bzr log -rtag:emacs-24.2

Thanks.  It is helpful.

|revno: 107781.1.340
|tags: emacs-24.2
|committer: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>
|branch nick: emacs-24
|timestamp: Fri 2012-08-24 17:53:39 +0800
                ^^^^^^^^^^
|message:
|  Update release logs

But, er, I realized what I really needs is not Emacs' release dates.
For example, the change made for `gnus-shr-put-image' is not in
Emacs 24.2 even if the ChangeLog in the trunk says as follows:

2012-02-01  Lars Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@gnus.org>
^^^^^^^^^^
 * gnus-art.el (gnus-shr-put-image): Take and pass on a `flags'
 parameter to allow controlling the scaling.

> Or see info-gnu-emacs[fn:1]

Thanks again.

Re: released dates

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Katsumi Yamaoka writes:

 > What I wanted to know then was whether a certain feature of Gnus
 > is in Emacs 24.x or not.  The date when the feature was added can
 > be found in the ChangeLog files

What (I hope) you should do is use a graphical tool to visualize the
merge history.  (You can also use bzr log -n0.)  Find the branch where
this was added.

Of course if Gnus merges are done from a different VCS using patch
rather than a commit-syncing tool this won't work. :-(

Re: released dates

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:31:59 +0900
> From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
> Cc: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Xue Fuqiao wrote:
> > You can use `-rtag:' in bzr:
> >   $ bzr log -rtag:emacs-24.2
> 
> Thanks.  It is helpful.
> 
> |revno: 107781.1.340
> |tags: emacs-24.2
> |committer: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>
> |branch nick: emacs-24
> |timestamp: Fri 2012-08-24 17:53:39 +0800
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^
> |message:
> |  Update release logs
> 
> But, er, I realized what I really needs is not Emacs' release dates.
> For example, the change made for `gnus-shr-put-image' is not in
> Emacs 24.2 even if the ChangeLog in the trunk says as follows:
> 
> 2012-02-01  Lars Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@gnus.org>
> ^^^^^^^^^^
>  * gnus-art.el (gnus-shr-put-image): Take and pass on a `flags'
>  parameter to allow controlling the scaling.

You probably want to run "bzr annotate" on (in this case) gnus-art.el
in the Emacs repository, find the bzr revision where that change was
made, and then compare that revision with what "bzr log -rtag:" shows.

Re: released dates

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:31:59 +0900
>> From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
>> Cc: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> Xue Fuqiao wrote:
>>> You can use `-rtag:' in bzr:
>>>   $ bzr log -rtag:emacs-24.2
>>
>> Thanks.  It is helpful.
>>
>>|revno: 107781.1.340
>>|tags: emacs-24.2
>>|committer: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>
>>|branch nick: emacs-24
>>|timestamp: Fri 2012-08-24 17:53:39 +0800
>>                 ^^^^^^^^^^
>>|message:
>>|  Update release logs
>>
>> But, er, I realized what I really needs is not Emacs' release dates.
>> For example, the change made for `gnus-shr-put-image' is not in
>> Emacs 24.2 even if the ChangeLog in the trunk says as follows:
>>
>> 2012-02-01  Lars Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@gnus.org>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>>  * gnus-art.el (gnus-shr-put-image): Take and pass on a `flags'
>>  parameter to allow controlling the scaling.

> You probably want to run "bzr annotate" on (in this case) gnus-art.el
> in the Emacs repository, find the bzr revision where that change was
> made, and then compare that revision with what "bzr log -rtag:" shows.

I tried "bzr annotate" for the first time.  I felt it will be more
useful than looking for a log message and a revno in the output of
"bzr log" (and then comparing revno-1..revno).  I have two local
copies of Emacs, emacs/trunk and emacs/emacs-24; I verified "bzr
annotate" done in emacs/emacs-24 shows helpful informations, too.

Thank you.

Re: released dates

[Xue Fuqiao]

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:31:59 +0900
>>> From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
>>> Cc: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>>
>>> Xue Fuqiao wrote:
>>>> You can use `-rtag:' in bzr:
>>>>   $ bzr log -rtag:emacs-24.2
>>>
>>> Thanks.  It is helpful.
>>>
>>>|revno: 107781.1.340
>>>|tags: emacs-24.2
>>>|committer: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>
>>>|branch nick: emacs-24
>>>|timestamp: Fri 2012-08-24 17:53:39 +0800
>>>                 ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>|message:
>>>|  Update release logs
>>>
>>> But, er, I realized what I really needs is not Emacs' release dates.
>>> For example, the change made for `gnus-shr-put-image' is not in
>>> Emacs 24.2 even if the ChangeLog in the trunk says as follows:
>>>
>>> 2012-02-01  Lars Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@gnus.org>
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>  * gnus-art.el (gnus-shr-put-image): Take and pass on a `flags'
>>>  parameter to allow controlling the scaling.
>
>> You probably want to run "bzr annotate" on (in this case) gnus-art.el
>> in the Emacs repository, find the bzr revision where that change was
>> made, and then compare that revision with what "bzr log -rtag:" shows.
>
> I tried "bzr annotate" for the first time.  I felt it will be more
> useful than looking for a log message and a revno in the output of
> "bzr log" (and then comparing revno-1..revno).  I have two local
> copies of Emacs, emacs/trunk and emacs/emacs-24; I verified "bzr
> annotate" done in emacs/emacs-24 shows helpful informations, too.

Or the vc-annotate command.  It creates an annotate buffer displaying
the file's text, with each line tagged with the revision number, which
has a `help-echo' property containing author and date information.  You
can browse the annotations of past revisions, view diffs or log entries.

See (info "(emacs) Old Revisions").

--
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

Re: released dates

[Xue Fuqiao]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Katsumi,

> I needed to download the Emacs 24.2 tarball after all to know
> when it was released[1].  It has not been recorded even in the
> 24.3 tarball.  Is there a way by any chance to do it in a local
> copy of the bzr repository?
>
> Thanks.

You can use `-rtag:' in bzr:
  $ bzr log -rtag:emacs-24.2

Or see info-gnu-emacs[fn:1]

Footnotes:

[fn:1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu-emacs/2012-08/msg00000.html

--
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/