From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:29:27 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <87bmj6dda0.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87vahe911g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87374id7jy.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <877ett8g7k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87a7yn7tqp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878te75xa1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ind6l2tt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877etklvsa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83y3m0pv8u.fsf@gnu.org> <86608msw0h.fsf@dod.no> <838tdiet25.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3li4vh7.fsf@telefonica.net> <87efnan46u.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <86wp12qtgo.fsf@dod.no> <83tvw6chqv.fsf@gnu.org> <86shbprix7.fsf_-_@dod.no> <7c7503b4-1f82-8a25-fedd-c61c3e7629f6@cs.ucla.edu> <83zi5o6w4p.fsf@gnu.org> <745d2f02-8ca3-8962-0de4-053340c8fa63@cs.ucla.edu> <83o9m46u55.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515439700 27854 195.159.176.226 (8 Jan 2018 19:28:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 19:28:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 Cc: sb@dod.no, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 08 20:28:15 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYd5i-0006rz-IB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 20:28:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53597 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYd7i-00069z-5H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 14:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39020) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYd70-0005hX-FV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 14:29:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYd6z-0004uz-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 14:29:34 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:55856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYd6w-0004sX-0q; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 14:29:30 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60431615B4; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id ekmvjQD33pY6; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259DA1615A6; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id vHb-IZsXFRG2; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09840161436; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83o9m46u55.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221725 Archived-At: On 01/08/2018 11:13 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > there won't be any reasonable > way of finding out when that change was made, except by finding a > machine with a reasonably fast Internet connection and/or where > there's already a cloned Git repository (or some other similar option > that is not always available in Real Life). Nowadays, I would not consider doing nontrivial development on Emacs without having a Git repository available. (This does not require an Internet connection, just a copy of the repository; I commonly work this way.) These days, serious hacking without the repository would be like hacking without the ChangeLog files would have been in the old days. It'd be like hacking with one arm tied behind one's back, and it's not something that we need to cater to.