From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans BKK Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Helm (and?) or Icicles (possibly using Evil) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <4cd079bd-9978-422f-9449-51d8fbe76485@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398700527 6612 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2014 15:55:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:55:27 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 28 17:55:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wentn-0007We-Mm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:55:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44656 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wentm-00023S-Rc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:55:18 -0400 X-Received: by 10.236.35.33 with SMTP id t21mr11820122yha.11.1398700420225; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.1.225 with SMTP id 1mr187787obp.6.1398700420111; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!ih12no682434qab.1!news-out.google.com!gi6ni629igc.0!nntp.google.com!l13no11670411iga.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <4cd079bd-9978-422f-9449-51d8fbe76485@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2602:306:334f:a5e0:5cb7:54b4:7312:47e0; posting-account=IUdGewoAAACF9WtA3i8stuVyXNk2FqaH Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2602:306:334f:a5e0:5cb7:54b4:7312:47e0 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:53:40 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205155 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97421 Archived-At: On Saturday, April 26, 2014 6:58:39 PM UTC-4, Emanuel Berg wrote: > OK, I'll make this more simple:=20 > When you wrote the above paragraph, what program did=20 you use?=20 > And when you sent the mail (or post), again, what=20 program did you use?=20 > That simple.=20 > If you are using Emacs, in a way you are doing the right thing, but actua= lly everything will be clear in time, so you can just relax :)=20 > If you are not using Emacs, and instead are using Vim and Thunderbird or = something like that - you should either 1) stop doing that, or 2) join news= groups/listbots for *those* applications - what's the purpose theorizing ab= out an application you don't even use?=20 ------------- I may very well end up using emacs for dozens of different functions withou= t ever using it for email or usenet. You're really telling newbies they have to start straight off using emacs f= or everything it's capable of doing before they've learned anything about t= he environment itself via their own approach?