From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric? Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 06:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <2a7b9134-af2a-462d-af6c-d02bad60bbe8@default> <834mjecdy7.fsf@gnu.org> <38061f42-eaf1-47c6-b74d-f676ac952b18@default> <83r3miatvl.fsf@gnu.org> <21998.29683.916211.867479@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83pp1s7w1m.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhcg38x7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y4gg5n4q.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441805638 646 80.91.229.3 (9 Sep 2015 13:33:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel , Juri Linkov To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 15:33:44 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZfVG-0000mS-5o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 15:33:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42695 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZfVA-0005jU-QY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 09:33:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47116) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZfUt-0005iE-3W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 09:33:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZfUs-0003s4-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 09:33:11 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:26617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZfUl-0003os-2a; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 09:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t89DWwkI011575 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:32:59 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t89DWv0r028569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:32:58 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t89DWvO7024268; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:32:57 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189761 Archived-At: > If I may weigh in. I think the whole discussion of whether this should > be symmetric or not is pointless. There are arguments for both sides, > and without any significant amount of empirical evidence, any choice > is as good as flipping a coin. > > I'd much rather we focus effort on making the equiv-classes easier to > customize. 1. You are welcome to say that you would rather flip a coin than try to discuss what this thread proposes. 2. I too would like to see progress wrt a discussion about letting users easily define new equivalence classes and customize existing equivalence classes. But please start a separate thread for that.