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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: How to restore the layout?
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:11:16 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1074047-9c79-4e95-8e1c-034b8b47462b@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D126A4.50402@gmx.at>

>  > - What to do about minibufferless frames and minibuffer-only frames?
> 
> When saving we will have to establish a relationship between each
> minibuffer-less frame and its associated minibuffer frame.  When
> restoring we first have to create the minibuffer frame(s) and then
> create the minibuffer-less frames and redirect them to their minibuffer
> frame(s).  When at this time a normal frame (with minibuffer window)
> remains, we probably have to delete it - AFAIK there's no function to
> convert an existing minibuffer-equipped frame to a minibuffer-less one.
> 
> I think anyone needing such an arrangement will have to write the
> appropriate code.  Here we only have to make sure that (some sort of)
> frame names can be written by desktop so we can use them later when
> restoring the frame/minibuffer relationships.

Another possibility/suggestion, from little-to-no knowledge of this
stuff: Simply do not record or restore a minibuffer-only frame.
Otherwise, record the `minibuffer' property of a frame, including the
case where it is nil (no minibuffer).

That should at least handle the case of someone who restores a desktop
in an Emacs session that already has a standalone minibuffer.  (But
from your message I now have a doubt: is it necessary to associate the
ordinary restored frames with the existing standalone minibuffer?)

And I think that is the common (only?) standalone minibuffer frame
scenario, I believe.

There are perhaps other use cases, e.g., where the desktop is
invoked/restored before the Emacs session has created its standalone
minibuffer.  Dunno - can't really speak to such scenarios.

But for the usual (?) case, where an Emacs session exists with a
standalone minibuffer and *then* you restore a desktop, I would guess
(naively) that it should work perfectly.

Keep in mind that to use a standalone minibuffer you really need to
set it up at startup time, e.g., from the command line or from your
init file.  You cannot add a (useful) standalone minibuffer after Emacs
has already created its first frame, which has its own minibuffer.

Correction of that last observation welcome.  But it seems to be the
case.  My simple proposal above (do not record/restore minibuffer-only
frames) is, I guess, based on it.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 264+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-22 13:45 How to restore the layout? Angelo Graziosi
2013-06-22 23:01 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-23 10:24   ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-06-23  8:26 ` martin rudalics
2013-06-23 10:35   ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-06-24 17:05     ` martin rudalics
2013-06-24 17:23       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 17:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 17:52           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 18:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 18:33               ` Stephen Berman
2013-06-24 18:33             ` Stephen Berman
2013-06-24 20:10               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 20:11                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 20:22                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-24 20:28                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 20:57                     ` martin rudalics
2013-06-24 22:47                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 23:38                         ` Juri Linkov
2013-06-24 23:43                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25  6:03                             ` Juri Linkov
2013-06-25 16:05                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25  6:46                         ` martin rudalics
2013-06-25 15:32                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25 16:32                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-25 16:38                               ` martin rudalics
2013-06-25 17:21                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25 21:36                                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-06-25 21:40                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-26  0:52                                       ` chad
2013-06-26 14:03                                         ` chad
2013-06-26 17:21                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-26 18:27                                             ` martin rudalics
2013-06-26 23:05                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27  2:35                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-27  2:57                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27  4:30                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-27  8:55                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 15:20                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-27 15:23                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27  8:05                                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-06-27  9:00                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27  9:38                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-06-27 21:02                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28  6:34                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 11:53                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 14:02                                                             ` martin rudalics
2013-06-27 13:29                                       ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-06-27 14:05                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 14:31                                           ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-06-27 14:45                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 18:27                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-06-27 20:30                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 20:49                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-06-27 20:52                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 21:00                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-06-27 21:03                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 23:33                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28  6:07                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28  8:17                                                               ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 11:54                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 11:48                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 17:55                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 18:15                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-28 17:22                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-28 17:51                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 19:36                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-29  0:54                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-29  8:29                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-06-29 22:06                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30  9:35                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-06-30 10:32                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30 12:55                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-06-30 17:55                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-01  6:48                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-04 20:41                                                                                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-04 21:34                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-04 23:10                                                                                       ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-04 23:19                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05  7:45                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05  9:37                                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 14:02                                                                                               ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-05 14:55                                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 15:02                                                                                                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-05 15:10                                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 15:30                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 15:39                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 15:54                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 16:02                                                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 17:03                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 17:06                                                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 17:37                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-06 14:32                                                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-07 10:57                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 15:21                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 15:26                                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 15:39                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 15:40                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 15:55                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 17:04                                                                                                       ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-05 17:09                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05  7:45                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 10:07                                                                                           ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-05 12:58                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 13:13                                                                                               ` Jan Djärv
2013-07-05 13:41                                                                                               ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-05 14:42                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05 18:22                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-05 20:30                                                                                                     ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-06  8:47                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-07-06  9:10                                                                                                         ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-06 10:44                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-07-06 11:04                                                                                                             ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-06 13:06                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-07-06 13:18                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-06 13:43                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-06 13:53                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-07 10:56                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-07-06 14:27                                                                                                                 ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-07-06 18:57                                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-07 10:57                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-07 11:32                                                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-07 12:46                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-07-07 15:53                                                                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-07-08  6:47                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-07-08 13:56                                                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-07-08 17:29                                                                                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-09  9:08                                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-09  9:07                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-07-09 15:32                                                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-10  7:20                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-10 13:50                                                                                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-07-06  9:13                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-06 10:44                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-07-06 14:39                                                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05  7:44                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-06-29  8:51                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-29 18:00                                                                     ` chad
2013-06-29 18:12                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 22:36                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30 15:27                                                                       ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-30 18:12                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28  8:13                                                     ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28  8:31                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28  8:46                                                         ` Jan Djärv
     [not found]                                                           ` <51CD5489.10902@g>
2013-06-28  9:16                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 10:01                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 10:19                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 10:26                                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 11:50                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-06-29  8:47                                                                     ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-29 22:26                                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30 15:25                                                                         ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-30 18:09                                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 12:46                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 14:03                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 14:58                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 15:06                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 17:53                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29  0:49                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 15:22                                                                       ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 15:32                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 15:53                                                                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 12:05                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 13:06                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 13:22                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 14:51                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 15:22                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 17:52                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29  0:47                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-29  8:39                                                                               ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-29 22:18                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-29 23:48                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2013-06-30 10:16                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30 16:30                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2013-06-30 18:15                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30  7:51                                                                                   ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-30  9:35                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-06-30 10:01                                                                                       ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-30 10:11                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-06-30 10:34                                                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30 10:29                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30 12:55                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-06-30 18:03                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-30 21:32                                                                                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-07-01  0:28                                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-01  3:31                                                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-01  6:50                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-01 10:38                                                                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-02 10:38                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-07-02 16:32                                                                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03  9:27                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 10:36                                                                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 12:42                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 14:20                                                                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 14:32                                                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-04  9:35                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 14:08                                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2013-07-08  2:50                                                                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-08  6:47                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-07-08 12:13                                                                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-01 14:11                                                                                                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2013-07-01 14:40                                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-01 16:03                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2013-07-01 16:37                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-01 18:03                                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2013-07-02  0:25                                                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-02  3:46                                                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2013-07-02 17:32                                                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-02 19:40                                                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2013-07-03  9:03                                                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03  9:34                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 10:38                                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 12:42                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 14:35                                                                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-04  9:35                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-07-04 14:17                                                                                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05  7:43                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-05  9:35                                                                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 14:08                                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2013-07-03 14:54                                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03  9:27                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 14:08                                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2013-07-03  9:27                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-07-03 10:37                                                                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 14:08                                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2013-07-03 15:16                                                                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-03 17:01                                                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2013-06-30 15:23                                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-30 15:34                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 14:03                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 15:12                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 10:22                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 11:50                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 12:11                                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 12:24                                                                     ` Angelo Graziosi
2013-06-28 13:02                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 14:07                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 14:59                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 12:08                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 13:07                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 13:29                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 14:53                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 15:24                                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-29  8:03                                                                     ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-29  8:11                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-30 15:29                                                                         ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-30 15:39                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-28 12:00                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 12:31                                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 13:18                                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 14:26                                                                     ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 15:19                                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 14:03                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 15:13                                                                     ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-28 15:14                                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 14:02                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2013-06-28 15:10                                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-28 16:17                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-06-29  8:41                                                                 ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-28 13:29                                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-06-25  3:22               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-24 17:38         ` martin rudalics
2013-06-23 12:28   ` Juanma Barranquero

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