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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>,
	12507@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:14:16 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b00d21dd-07ee-4f33-9a96-f96c168fee20@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9g52dvz.fsf@red-bean.com>

Hi Karl,

At this point I don't have anything special to say
about your general proposal regarding backups.  My
comments regard the bookmarks code.

1. I don't see why this proposal is in bug #12507.
   It seems like a general proposal, which should
   probably go to emacs-devel.

2. I don't see why the bookmark code shouldn't visit
   the file.  That hasn't been explained.  You cite
   a commit for save-place, not for bookmark.el.
   And even for that commit there's no explanation
   of _why_ the particular file shouldn't be visited.

I switched to using `write-file' for bookmark files
long ago, and I haven't seen any problem.  When using
a bookmark file, you're anyway visiting it, in some
sense.  I see no inconvenience in having the bookmark
file be added to a list of visited files.  You might
not be reading or editing it directly (as text), but
you're definitely reading it or editing it indirectly.

Until we hear a reason for why `write-region' should
be used for bookmark files, using it seems like a
solution (for save-place?) looking for a problem.

What's wrong with the obvious, simple solution to the
real, recognized problem of no backups for bookmark
files: use `write-file'?  That's the first question
to ask and answer, no?





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-23 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel

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