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From: Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why is booleanp defined this way?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 20:35:23 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b006075a-9af5-4624-ab5b-c31e8e29f627@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <barmar-D92652.23111817042015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 8:41:19 AM UTC+5:30, Barry Margolin wrote:
>  Emanuel Berg  wrote:
> 
> > Rusi  writes:
> > 
> > >> I never used `booleanp' and I never experienced
> > >> that the boolean built-in type was missing from my
> > >> "ontology".
> > >
> > > If you how to write (and grok) an 'if' you have
> > > boolean in your ontology. That you dont know that
> > > you know is ok
> > 
> > I know what a *boolean* is, just not why I would need
> > a built-in data type to express it.
> 
> It's not a built-in type. It's a conceptual type, like "list".

Ha! Ha!! What a fantastic one-line summary-example of what I was trying to say!

I always marvel at how Lisp puns on the word 'list':
- Sometimes 'normal' lists -- like arrays in other languages
- Sometimes heterogeneous -- like structs
- Sometimes recursive structured -- aka trees
- Sometimes homoiconic -- code=data
- And yet at bottom they are just s-expressions -- the barest possible binary
tree -- each internal node containing nothing but subtrees

And so -- to expand a little on what you are saying:
-- Getting lisp limited to the formal language definition is nothing more than
getting the defs of car/cdr/null/nil/cons
-- Getting lisp as a lisp programmer means getting all the above and more,
making Eric Raymond's mystical sounding quote quite literal:

| Lisp is worth learning for the profound enlightenment experience you will
| have when you finally get it; that experience will make you a better
| programmer for the rest of your days, even if you never actually use Lisp 
| itself a lot. 


  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-18  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.946.1429302909.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-17 20:55 ` Why is booleanp defined this way? Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-17 23:20 ` Barry Margolin
2015-04-17 23:30   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18  0:43     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-18  3:13       ` Barry Margolin
2015-04-18  3:12     ` Barry Margolin
2015-04-18  2:01 ` Rusi
2015-04-18  2:23   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18  2:33     ` Rusi
2015-04-18  2:55       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18  3:11         ` Barry Margolin
2015-04-18  3:35           ` Rusi [this message]
2015-04-18  4:56             ` Barry Margolin
2015-04-19 23:08               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-19 23:00             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18 21:24           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18  7:52         ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]         ` <mailman.997.1429343558.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-18 12:43           ` Rusi
2015-04-18  4:09       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-18  5:00         ` Rusi
2015-04-18  3:50   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-18  5:03     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-17 20:34 Marcin Borkowski
2015-04-17 20:49 ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
     [not found] ` <mailman.962.1429303822.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-17 23:06   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18  0:41     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-18  1:06       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18  1:23         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-18  7:44         ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-04-18  8:37         ` Stefan Nobis
2015-04-19 23:15           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-18  2:37 ` Drew Adams
2015-04-18  6:13 ` Tassilo Horn

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