From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Horsley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:17:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190580047 15145 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2007 20:40:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:40:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 23 22:40:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZYFr-0001Gx-Gz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:40:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZYFp-0005af-0h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:40:37 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:17:26 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Original-Lines: 19 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.109.138.14 Original-X-Trace: sv3-ZRURaDNMnWceChsRwReuXN+PVwTgLxEbjlrt2MHJLTYoA0uLHh65cz0YqpuKtYspOEOQcZhkGFuuex2!bt+turFWg6UoTJxPNvZTgPda+fgCRx7Ttny40WOv3igX2fOK0J/7oDUxbwcn4UKJWuYpmZnCfk34!sLy57YJm5wnH0x6D5e+EJhMm2ldp9g== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.36 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:152274 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47783 Archived-At: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:22:15 -0700, Bruce Korb wrote: > OK. I've vented now. Would someone please be kind enough to tell me > how to shut down the novice stuff completely? Thank you. I have similar problems every emacs release. I can see an argument for making spiffy new features the default (else no one will notice them), but when one user finds a new helpful feature to be annoying rather than helpful, it would sure be nice if there were a standard way to get back the old behavior. I've always wished each emacs release would come with a doc file mentioning each new feature and giving the lisp code to add to your .emacs file to put it back the way it was in the previous release. (Of course even that might not help much if the new behavior is merely some annoying visual, you may not know the correct jargon to search for in the file to figure out how to turn it off, but you could always try each snippet of lisp till you find the one that does the trick :-).