From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Crispin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:29:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291943691 600 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 01:14:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 01:14:51 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 02:14:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQrZO-0003qN-Ly for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 02:14:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58694 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQrZO-0007QM-42 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:14:46 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.isomediainc!news.posted.isomediainc.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:29:14 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) Original-Lines: 19 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.124.149.116 Original-X-Trace: sv3-v4PnBPDMrFul8dBm8HcF6VvLAcjyIO3ChTELc61+SPXoJ0Kix5A2IMmmS6SilFM2/tuK4EfsJUjKVUP!85A6zlzVFoVXcUbYTLY8FqsALfleraK1IJkkTfdIZU0k+VryGGexTcMKHEql6DnetQTzpy0IZwrj!WKiBxF4C3gvxDttueHoho6Lq9GkIqlc= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178655 comp.emacs:99909 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:09:14 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77113 Archived-At: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Stefan Monnier posted: >> Why should users expect surprises? > To spice things up, of course. Young system programmers seem to do this a lot, before they acquire the judgement to know better. >>> As I said before, the line-move-visual setting has been a complex decision >>> for the developers. >> And they screwed it up. > Yup, big time, Indeed. -- Mark -- http://panda.com/mrc Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.