From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Crispin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:18:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87pr07qjio.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <878w6vq7ew.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871vcmhq79.fsf@wivenhoe.ul.ie> <580d5f23-e251-483f-9752-7e77b1ca2fb7@40g2000pry.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291944257 2668 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 01:24:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 01:24:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 02:24:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQriW-0007Ev-1m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 02:24:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48450 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQriV-0003kz-7R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:24:11 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!feed.news.qwest.net!mpls-nntp-07.inet.qwest.net!216.196.98.149.MISMATCH!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.isomediainc!news.posted.isomediainc.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:18:04 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp In-Reply-To: <580d5f23-e251-483f-9752-7e77b1ca2fb7@40g2000pry.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) Original-Lines: 19 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.124.149.116 Original-X-Trace: sv3-w4tbDwE6jTq2HaLvZFJmnupD3VudduVf7B9OQLUvbWmT3iBm94X4v7WnOxXLzovtgQZU+3c/dETLnwu!gc8YEz/nZsdyEWGguPbhs/1upkWw0Zc/1Ne5/gz7MwW+yHHh7dPT5rF39eE79OOr1R59fzLUwzY/!bEqL1uiaAXp6buHnpprdbHJfFOhVF6s= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178644 comp.emacs:99903 comp.lang.lisp:288710 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:09:13 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77126 Archived-At: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Xah Lee posted: > Personally, i find moving by visual line is not just a good feature, > but a critical one, with consequences that effect the evolution of > language design and thinking, long term. The hard-coded lines is > fundamentally introduced by unix and C gang, and brain damaged a whole > generation of coders. This is why UNIX and C accomplish things. They were based upon accomplishing something useful rather than promoting an ideology. It sounds like Microsoft Word is more suitable for the sort of work that you do. Perhaps you ought to use Word instead of seeking to make emacs become more like Word. -- Mark -- http://panda.com/mrc Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.