From: Mark Crispin <mrc@panda.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: line-move-visual
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:18:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.2.00.1006041054580.77397@hsinghsing.panda.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <580d5f23-e251-483f-9752-7e77b1ca2fb7@40g2000pry.googlegroups.com>
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Xah Lee posted:
> Personally, i find moving by visual line is not just a good feature,
> but a critical one, with consequences that effect the evolution of
> language design and thinking, long term. The hard-coded lines is
> fundamentally introduced by unix and C gang, and brain damaged a whole
> generation of coders.
This is why UNIX and C accomplish things. They were based upon
accomplishing something useful rather than promoting an ideology.
It sounds like Microsoft Word is more suitable for the sort of work that
you do. Perhaps you ought to use Word instead of seeking to make emacs
become more like Word.
-- Mark --
http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
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[not found] ` <alpine.OSX.2.00.1006031431510.77397@hsinghsing.panda.com>
2010-06-04 7:59 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
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2010-06-04 11:24 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-04 12:49 ` line-move-visual Tassilo Horn
2010-06-09 19:51 ` line-move-visual Joseph Brenner
2010-06-09 20:22 ` line-move-visual Brendan Halpin
2010-06-10 1:23 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
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2010-06-04 13:00 ` line-move-visual Tassilo Horn
2010-06-04 14:51 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-04 20:53 ` line-move-visual Tassilo Horn
2010-06-09 19:42 ` proposed keyboard-macro to record to elisp (was Re: line-move-visual) Joseph Brenner
2010-06-09 22:42 ` LanX
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[not found] ` <hub2ss$is4$1@north.jnrs.ja.net>
2010-06-04 14:45 ` line-move-visual Brendan Halpin
2010-06-04 17:49 ` line-move-visual Xah Lee
2010-06-04 18:18 ` Mark Crispin [this message]
2010-06-04 19:19 ` line-move-visual Xah Lee
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2010-06-06 9:53 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-06 9:39 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
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2010-06-06 15:21 ` line-move-visual Tassilo Horn
2010-06-07 8:19 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
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2010-06-07 16:20 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-06 15:43 ` line-move-visual Alain Ketterlin
[not found] ` <87wrucccl3.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
2010-06-07 6:18 ` Wrong use of format=flowed antidote Uday S Reddy
2010-06-07 21:30 ` line-move-visual Joost Kremers
2010-06-06 18:17 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
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2010-06-07 2:53 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
2010-06-07 8:46 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-07 16:23 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-09 20:23 ` line-move-visual Joseph Brenner
2010-06-07 8:39 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-10 10:12 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-10 13:43 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-10 15:17 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-10 19:53 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-10 15:44 ` line-move-visual despen
2010-06-10 22:02 ` line-move-visual Tassilo Horn
2010-06-10 23:56 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-10 22:48 ` line-move-visual Evans Winner
[not found] ` <slrni2ja96.6pq.nospam-abuse@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu>
2010-06-29 11:09 ` HOWTO: Cowtow to old farts Xah Lee
2010-06-10 16:57 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
2010-06-10 18:38 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-11 23:56 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
2010-06-12 0:17 ` line-move-visual Wojciech Meyer
2010-06-13 17:23 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
2010-06-13 20:56 ` line-move-visual Alan Mackenzie
2010-06-14 0:42 ` line-move-visual Jim Diamond
2010-06-14 10:49 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-14 17:16 ` line-move-visual Alan Mackenzie
2010-06-14 17:34 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-15 9:26 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-15 13:49 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
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2010-06-16 14:43 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <m2k4q18od5.fsf@softwarematters.org>
[not found] ` <jwvaaqxbcca.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org>
2010-06-15 6:54 ` line-move-visual Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-15 8:42 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-15 9:30 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
2010-06-15 9:38 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-15 13:45 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-15 13:57 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
[not found] ` <jwvbpbb6oyk.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org>
2010-06-16 18:04 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
[not found] ` <hv8gvf$98o$1@north.jnrs.ja.net>
[not found] ` <hv8iog$313e$1@colin2.muc.de>
2010-06-15 19:37 ` line-move-visual Leo
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2010-06-16 12:37 ` Emacs language Leo
2010-06-17 8:00 ` Teemu Likonen
2010-06-15 21:04 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-16 15:33 ` line-move-visual Alan Mackenzie
2010-06-17 8:51 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-16 14:33 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <db13ae67-9d9a-4556-9a7c-8f86de63011f@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
2010-07-19 22:41 ` minor mode on/off/toggle with t/nil question Stefan Monnier
2010-06-15 16:51 ` line-move-visual Alan Mackenzie
2010-06-16 12:43 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
2010-06-15 19:17 ` line-move-visual Xah Lee
2010-06-16 14:49 ` espresso-mode (was: line-move-visual) Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <4C17FE36.30102@thadlabs.com>
2010-06-15 22:45 ` line-move-visual Xah Lee
2010-06-15 23:31 ` line-move-visual Thad Floryan
2010-06-16 3:30 ` line-move-visual Evans Winner
2010-06-16 16:14 ` line-move-visual Xah Lee
2010-06-16 23:23 ` line-move-visual Chris F.A. Johnson
[not found] ` <b1e84c4a-e74e-4ace-9b0f-a00b370eb61d@q39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-16 23:45 ` Keyboard Hardware's Influence on Keyboard Shortcut Design Xah Lee
2010-06-16 14:52 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
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2010-06-17 2:25 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-17 3:51 ` line-move-visual Chris F.A. Johnson
2010-06-17 9:03 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-20 18:42 ` line-move-visual B. T. Raven
2010-06-20 17:08 ` line-move-visual B. T. Raven
2010-06-12 4:18 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-12 4:37 ` line-move-visual Evans Winner
2010-06-12 8:30 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
2010-06-12 8:40 ` line-move-visual Evans Winner
2010-06-12 9:30 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-12 12:30 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-12 20:09 ` line-move-visual Joseph Brenner
2010-06-13 1:41 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-13 10:22 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-13 10:51 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
2010-06-13 11:32 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-14 0:46 ` line-move-visual Tim X
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2010-06-15 9:20 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-15 11:29 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-16 9:29 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-14 4:48 ` line-move-visual Tim X
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2010-06-16 2:11 ` line-move-visual Joseph Brenner
2010-06-16 6:46 ` line-move-visual Helmut Eller
2010-06-13 10:36 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
2010-06-16 2:19 ` line-move-visual Joseph Brenner
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2010-06-12 12:25 ` line-move-visual Tim X
2010-06-12 20:17 ` line-move-visual Joseph Brenner
2010-06-10 19:57 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-13 12:46 ` line-move-visual Uday S Reddy
2010-06-09 21:38 ` line-move-visual Joseph Brenner
[not found] ` <slrni10ga0.t64.Jim.Diamond@jdiamond-nb.acadiau.ca>
2010-06-10 16:15 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
2010-06-04 17:52 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
2010-06-04 18:28 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
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2010-06-06 2:25 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
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[not found] ` <alpine.OSX.2.00.1006091815150.93771@hsinghsing.panda.com>
2010-06-10 7:12 ` line-move-visual David Kastrup
2010-06-04 21:16 ` line-move-visual Stefan Monnier
2010-06-05 1:29 ` line-move-visual Mark Crispin
2010-06-04 13:20 ` line-move-visual sable
2009-07-09 18:12 line-move-visual Johan Myréen
2009-07-10 4:26 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 4:43 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 5:48 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 6:14 ` line-move-visual Kenichi Handa
2009-07-10 6:58 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 8:13 ` line-move-visual Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-10 10:10 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 8:43 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 8:57 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 9:04 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 10:32 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 9:08 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 9:13 ` line-move-visual joakim
2009-07-10 9:22 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 16:22 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 17:20 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 17:40 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 9:52 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 11:35 ` line-move-visual Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-10 13:38 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 18:01 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 18:16 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-11 19:34 ` line-move-visual Juri Linkov
2009-07-10 13:56 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 15:07 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 20:29 ` line-move-visual Lennart Borgman
2009-07-10 15:43 ` line-move-visual Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-10 15:56 ` line-move-visual Sean O'Rourke
2009-07-10 9:14 ` line-move-visual Tassilo Horn
2009-07-10 9:56 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 10:22 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-10 16:11 ` line-move-visual Drew Adams
2009-07-10 10:36 ` line-move-visual Ulrich Mueller
2009-07-10 10:56 ` line-move-visual Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-10 11:07 ` line-move-visual Christian Faulhammer
2009-07-10 11:29 ` line-move-visual Ulrich Mueller
2009-07-10 18:15 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 20:40 ` line-move-visual Richard Stallman
2009-07-11 1:58 ` line-move-visual Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-11 2:29 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 2:44 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-11 18:30 ` line-move-visual Richard Stallman
2009-07-10 6:12 ` line-move-visual Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-10 21:19 ` line-move-visual Johan Myréen
2009-07-10 22:14 ` line-move-visual Scot Becker
2009-07-11 1:34 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 2:46 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-11 5:25 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 5:49 ` line-move-visual Kenichi Handa
2009-07-11 6:13 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-11 9:22 ` line-move-visual Bastien
2009-07-10 4:35 ` line-move-visual Miles Bader
2009-07-10 13:31 ` line-move-visual Chong Yidong
2009-07-11 6:42 ` line-move-visual Andrey Paramonov
2009-07-11 7:21 ` line-move-visual Teemu Likonen
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