From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: New multi-command facility displays in the wrong echo area. Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:15:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20201009163445.GB4027@ACM> <20201009203810.GC4027@ACM> <83imbi609a.fsf@gnu.org> <20201010103233.GB5662@ACM> <834kn25o6b.fsf@gnu.org> <20201010124446.GC5662@ACM> <831ri65jpc.fsf@gnu.org> <83zh4u44mx.fsf@gnu.org> <83imbg4yl3.fsf@gnu.org> <1cd65040-f7ad-4613-b3fb-7cfa62bb0488@default> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17043"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , acm@muc.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 15 00:16:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSp46-0004Kg-H2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 00:16:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53408 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSp45-0000xK-Dt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:16:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSp3E-0000MN-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:15:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:58847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSp3B-0006X2-S5; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 09EMF8se005617 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:15:09 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 09EMFW43024549; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:15:32 GMT In-Reply-To: <1cd65040-f7ad-4613-b3fb-7cfa62bb0488@default> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/14 16:17:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257688 Archived-At: Hi Drew, >> I just realized (thanks to Stefan's last email on this list) that my >> patch introduces a regression for those who (like him) use >> miniwindow-only frames. >> >> To correct that regression, ... >> >> display the message at the end of the active minibuffer if it is either >> on the same frame as the current window, or if it is in a >> miniwindow-only frame. > > That takes care of that regression, but it doesn't take care of the > problem for minibuffer-only frames that it aims to solve otherwise. > > This is another reason why echo display in the mode-line is a > half-measure. I'm in the same boat as Stefan on this: I use a > standalone minibuffer frame. And I don't want any `message' output > shown in the minibuffer. > I gave you a (rough) draft that shows how this can be done yesterday. I copy it here again: (progn (select-frame (make-frame '((minibuffer . nil) (name . "Drew's Echo Area")))) (set-frame-height nil 1) (set-frame-parameter nil 'tool-bar-lines nil) (set-frame-parameter nil 'menu-bar-lines nil) (switch-to-buffer " *Drew's Echo Area*") (setq-local mode-line-format nil) (setq cursor-in-non-selected-windows nil)) (defun set-minibuffer-message (message) (with-current-buffer (get-buffer " *Drew's Echo Area*") (setq-local inhibit-read-only t) (erase-buffer) (insert message)) t) It's only a rough draft, but it seems to work quite well already.