From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:07:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (NEB 394 2020-01-19) Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 11:08:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBDtM-0006zk-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:08:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51406 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBDtL-0007Ls-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 05:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBDsr-0006nl-K4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 05:07:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:49592) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBDsp-0001Iw-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 05:07:49 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 07R97cwg001011 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:07:38 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 07R97brm010069; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:07:37 GMT In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/27 05:07:42 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254281 Archived-At: > > Lars Ljung proposed to change frame-title-format to something more > modern and similar to Firefox, gvim, Gimp, LibreOffice, etc.: > https://debbugs.gnu.org/41147 > FWIW, on Debian GNU/Linux, this is what some other programs do: " - Mozilla Firefox" "<title of the page displayed in the current tab> - Google Chrome" "<file name being played> - VLC media player" (with a playlist with two or more items) "VLC media player" (with an empty playlist or one with a single file) "MPlayer" "<file name> - LibreOffice {Calc|Writer|...}" "<modification status>[<file name without extension>] <detailed information about the file> - GIMP", where <modification status> is "" or "*" In short, there is no clear convention. On macOS, title bars have mostly disappeared, but a few apps still use it, for example: "<file name>" (LibreOffice or TextEdit) "<buffer name>" (GNU Emacs, the default value for frame-title-format is t) I would personally vote for something like: (setq frame-title-format '("%* %b - " (:eval (format "GNU Emacs %d on %s" emacs-major-version system-name)))) Gregory