From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Another Emacs incompatibilty Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:31:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: <86r1s648dc.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86wo1xz4lt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Reply-To: Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14487"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 18:32:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7i3F-0003fb-PF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 18:32:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60490 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7i3E-0007lR-Ni for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7i2g-0007hT-Gq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:31:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:59728) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7i2e-0006v8-8m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:31:26 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 07HGVHej015558 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:31:18 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 07HGVHHs023172; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:31:17 GMT In-Reply-To: <86wo1xz4lt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Content-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/17 10:45:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123689 Archived-At: Torbj=F6rn Granlund: > > For example, changing the way something as fundamental as regions work=20 > in a very mature editor is just a bad idea. A really really bad idea.=20 > By all means, define some other type of region and let that have other=20 > semantics, or, let users opt in to incompatible regions by having them=20 > set a variable in their .emacs. > Like Eli, I really wonder what this means. I've been using Emacs for=20 about 25 years, and I've not seen any change in the way regions work. > > And please do explain why inserting gremlins in my buffers upon window=20 > focus changes is progress. > Again, what does this mean? I thought it was a joke the first time you=20 wrote it, but now you write it again, so it seems you're serious. Gregory