From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arni Magnusson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14740: Strange manual on website Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:58:12 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372424356 20156 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2013 12:59:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: webmasters@gnu.org To: 14740@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 28 14:59:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYGi-0003am-JR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:59:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33430 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYGi-0000pK-Ae for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42561) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYGc-0000o4-Us for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYGX-0005Zu-6d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:59:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYGX-0005Zq-1u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYGW-0003Vp-0O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:59:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Arni Magnusson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14740 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.137242431713418 (code B ref -1); Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2013 12:58:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46459 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYG4-0003UJ-2V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40571) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYFz-0003Tw-Ew for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:58:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYFt-0005RL-5k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:58:26 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYFt-0005RG-2m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:58:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYFr-0000du-TE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:58:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYFq-0005Qn-Lj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:58:23 -0400 Original-Received: from hafgarpur.hafro.is ([130.208.64.48]:41945) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsYFm-0005Q5-Ud; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:58:19 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at hafro.is Original-Received: from hafstokkur.hafro.is (hafstokkur [130.208.66.45]) by hafgarpur.hafro.is (8.14.2/8.14.2/hafro-2.47) with ESMTP id r5SCwDK1029563; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:58:13 GMT Original-Received: from hafstokkur.hafro.is (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hafstokkur.hafro.is (8.14.7/8.14.6/hafro-1.6) with ESMTP id r5SCwDYX046769; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:58:13 GMT Original-Received: from localhost (arnima@localhost) by hafstokkur.hafro.is (8.14.7/8.14.6/hafro-0.3) with ESMTP id r5SCwCmc046766; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:58:13 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: hafstokkur.hafro.is: arnima owned process doing -bs User-Agent: Alpine 2.03 (LFD 1266 2009-07-14) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75678 Archived-At: The GNU Emacs Manual website, http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html has strange copies of the manual. That's where I download the official PDF manual. I had noticed that the Emacs Manual 24.3 had unusually much material copied verbatim from the Lisp Reference Manual 24.3. For example, information about functions intended for Lisp programmers (not Emacs user commands). The Emacs Manual had also grown very abruptly from ca. 600 pages for many versions, to 894 pages. To satisfy my curiosity, I downloaded the Texinfo source (http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/texi/emacs.texi.tar.gz) and, sure enough, it compiles to 602 pages, with practically no overlap with the Lisp Reference Manual. I think the solution is to recompile the Texinfo source and upload the correct manuals (PS, PDF, etc.) to the GNU Emacs Manual website. Arni