From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: john Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: persistent crash Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 20:18:59 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: <3579-Tue13Feb2024170741+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <86o7ckp9kj.fsf@gnu.org> <86le7op2xz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14594"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 14 21:20:45 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1raLkK-0003by-Ta for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2024 21:20:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1raLjf-0000zG-TQ; Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:20:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1raLje-0000yy-9n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from codemist.co.uk ([217.155.197.248]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1raLjZ-0008Qz-O7; Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:20:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [172.16.4.42] (helo=snout.codemist.co.uk) by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1raLix-000000001C1-2IFp; Wed, 14 Feb 2024 20:19:19 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86le7op2xz.fsf@gnu.org> X-ACL-Warn: No reverse lookup Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.155.197.248; envelope-from=jpff@codemist.co.uk; helo=codemist.co.uk X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316210 Archived-At: It does not crash immediately with -Q But it happens if I remove all my customisations and also if i remove contents of .emacs I think the problem is in local-lisp which is a collection of useful bits picked up over the years. All predate lexical binding for example as I do. I am working my way through these files but I have a limping system. In particular rmail and associates is weaker and the anti spam stuff, Thank you for being so polite to a old programmer. ==John ffitch On Tue, 13 Feb 2024, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:49:09 +0000 (GMT) >> From: john >> cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> For me I launch emacs under X and FVWM and type C-x C-f and it >> crashes. I >> have failed to win back control as it produces these back-traces whatever >> type. I have done a make bootstrap but it made no difference >> I did see a message about cj=l being deprecated but I do not know whp is >> loading it. > > I guess this doesn't happen if you start "emacs -Q"? If so, look at > your customizations to find the minimal set that still produces the > Lisp errors, and post the results here. >