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[124.147.81.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t133sm43732639pgc.24.2017.02.21.19.23.25 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:23:26 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: Tino Calancha X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-pc In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129645 Archived-At: On Tue, 21 Feb 2017, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> (progn >> (describe-function 'dolist) >> (delete-other-windows) >> (featurep 'cl-lib)) >> => t > > FWIW, cl-lib is a library that can be loaded at runtime just fine. > Moreover, it's likely that cl-lib will end up pre-loaded from loadup.el > at some point in the (somewhat distant) future. I see, i guess prince Hamlet would ask this somehow differently: "To load, or not to load cl-lib- that is the question". But i lack of his talent for the lyrics... so i just sent a patch :-( > So I don't think we should worry too much about the above result. I often worry about things that most of the people even ignore they do exist :-S