From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@udel.edu>,
Dmitri Paduchikh <dpaduchikh@gmail.com>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anaphoric macros: increase visibility
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:24:56 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1701151921240.10958@calancha-pc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k29xqhqp.fsf@web.de>
Hi Michael,
>I sometimes think that `if-let*' would be a better name for `if-let'
>because bindings can refer (and naturally most of the time do) refer to other bindings.
+1
>I also often think that `and-let' (or `and-let*' ...) would be a better name
>for `when-let' (because the expressions for the bindings are `and'ed,
>sot the whole thing feels more like `and' to me).
I am in the middle of the 2 names:
*) and-let* suggests me that the bindings are `and'ed
**) but when-let* suggests me that the second argument is a list of
expressions, i.e., not just a form.
> (pcase-let ((`(,a ,b) '(1 2 3)))
> (list a b))
>
> ==> (1 2)
>
> although the pattern doesn't match.
I can be bitten with that pitfall as well.
>I think I would prefer something like
>
>#+begin_src emacs-lisp
>(defmacro pwhen (pairs &rest body)
> (declare (indent 1))
> `(pcase nil ((and ,@(mapcar (lambda (pair) (cons 'let pair)) pairs)) ,@body)))
>#+end_src
It might be useful.
>I'm using `when-let' and `if-let' a lot, but I'm still not sure
>in which direction we should develop this approach.
>I think we should have an imagination of where the travel should
>end before adding more *-let macros.
A possible starting point is puting all together in
subr-x.el after a heading
;;; Anaphoric macros.
and perform the improvements in naming discussed in this thread:
1) Move `ibuffer-aif', `ibuffer-awhen' to subr-x.el and rename as
`if-it', `when-it'. Add aliases to them `aif', `awhen'.
2) `if-let' --> `if-let*'. Add alias `if-let' for
backward compatibility.
3) `when-let' --> `when-let*' (or `and-let*'). Add alias.
Once they are all together is easier to see what macro is missing
which could be useful.
Tino
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-15 10:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-13 8:39 Anaphoric macros: increase visibility Tino Calancha
2017-01-13 19:48 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-01-14 2:30 ` Rolf Ade
2017-01-14 2:48 ` Rolf Ade
2017-01-14 3:03 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-01-14 4:13 ` Richard Copley
2017-01-14 5:27 ` Tino Calancha
2017-01-15 0:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-01-15 2:24 ` On the naming/behavior of {if, when}-let (was Re: Anaphoric macros: increase visibility) Mark Oteiza
2017-01-15 2:26 ` Anaphoric macros: increase visibility Michael Heerdegen
2017-01-15 10:24 ` Tino Calancha [this message]
2017-01-15 15:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-16 2:44 ` Tino Calancha
2017-01-16 3:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-14 6:25 ` Dmitri Paduchikh
2017-01-14 7:56 ` Tino Calancha
2017-01-14 10:15 ` Dmitri Paduchikh
2017-01-15 0:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-01-15 2:03 ` Dmitri Paduchikh
2017-01-15 2:16 ` Michael Heerdegen
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