From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tino Calancha Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Comment in verilog-mode.el about supported versions Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:35:22 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: References: <7qzijs6lc6.fsf@emma.svaha.wsnyder.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1482161884 5641 195.159.176.226 (19 Dec 2016 15:38:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:38:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) Cc: kaushal.modi@gmail.com, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, Emacs developers , Tino Calancha To: Wilson Snyder Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 19 16:38:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ00m-00010Z-6d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:38:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46215 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ00q-0008OX-BG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 10:38:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIzyL-0005U2-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 10:35:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIzyK-0002uZ-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 10:35:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x244.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::244]:33445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIzyK-0002tx-54 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 10:35:28 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x244.google.com with SMTP id 144so7727727pfv.0 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:35:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=lifNeqywDZ8+vv3yR6sglkyBEP0xR6A49VXd5lSbdCo=; b=mudx+y1ZXGMB1ylCPbaOep0xMdhtH3Tg5T4qQeTxA4w8/eWnRebRJDYtEyFuZsE1i3 5U5/gr3eZeqa2W24qws4ExrMSJ3bLqNVUyYrJhk9h+enLeHzcji5e95uJgNteF7B8s9n y29RRX5Fbpi+pDGhYsIg/Pr84LwRJwOq9j/zBAbzJI+a3Q6WxlVsNbou1yut4Ma+a1Cn EiZW0SoZeQrC0ctIzgsxqfd9Bll7UvKLsOWPOtFowZ/arqDf6YTaXNgHkgMpW4DwyvSM rFNHw9sxxkbHPBIhRu0MZaq4rL4UAbt1IDnWrB2rVbusbDjqPFfMzb1HC0pb/TKU9z4o UxTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=lifNeqywDZ8+vv3yR6sglkyBEP0xR6A49VXd5lSbdCo=; b=dzUhNv/er+/7izs1bxaVy/uJ5JGtpSdA/ghbLAaANBMhqC9VCDKbCqsPUGURtiowTi Lr4Dg15SbPNbmWSdYLmFakYB9XgvxUGg4zVLZ7YG+ejb3qFIVG1z+mEz/QWef051p3C+ bKf7UxdjL8N1Q4G6YLkK95rTi7WNZ+RaWHpyuIsUJXi8lYbUYpK2jFMzSR2RadbdTedW GP3zkfJSwwepRFO/hjpvy6laIM5vTn8UNr3eVHmHmIHoo0jeyH/z4CBlh5cq2l4a1yqc iYV8RB80vicTPXaddidV9T1RSjkovf5qZ3vuTz5Njl1u7RtmORmgA+lPeb0cls945ZKk 1d3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01DB1bOyfJZrjPOg+syOZKjATQXDyTdkygRWVfsWB7OMQb89ge9BjeEtGKn5+gqDw== X-Received: by 10.98.9.149 with SMTP id 21mr15857402pfj.159.1482161727185; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:35:27 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from calancha-pc ([240f:6e:c111:1:87d4:550f:514f:c022]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s5sm32660003pgj.19.2016.12.19.07.35.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:35:26 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: Tino Calancha X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-pc In-Reply-To: <7qzijs6lc6.fsf@emma.svaha.wsnyder.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210640 Archived-At: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Wilson Snyder wrote: > Verilog-mode is a bit unique. It's not just a programming > mode that is used inside Emacs, but a computer aided design > tool that extends the Verilog language, relied on in most > every chip design company, and often run as a standalone > tool from Emacs batch. > > Thus there are often important bugs which need to be fixed > back into what would otherwise be considered "old" Emacs > versions. cc-mode and like doesn't have this issue. > > Also because of this, verilog-mode.el is often part of the > source code control system of design environments, which > need to run regardless that different users and systems may > have different Emacs versions installed. > > Users often upgrade verilog-mode.el themselves, and so > having a single file, that they can easily install and know > will work, no matter their version of Emacs, is critical. > > Perhaps this path is more development work (though due to > version maintenance effort I'd argue that). But, I don't see > any way in which splitting versions nor splitting files > would help the users. > > Anyhow, regardless of these choices, new Emacs features are > made available. By no means is the least common denominator > all that is supported. > > -Wilson Understood. Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. Tino