From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: tino.calancha@gmail.com, 21391@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' should return a string
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:07:15 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1611111851250.21428@calancha-pc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef67e387-0302-1aaa-4764-cab2d3337a2c@yandex.ru>
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> On 10.11.2016 21:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
>> Because currently they can call thing-at-point without defining
>> foo-at-point. AFAIU, you suggest to deny them this possibility, and
>> force them to define foo-at-point for every foo.
>
> They'll really have to do that only for string-unrepresentable foos.
>
> Like currently (thing-at-point 'symbol) returns a string, whereas
> (symbol-at-point) returns an interned symbol. That's nothing new.
Indeed, this sounds the right usage for me, and for an user who has
read the part of the manual refering to `thing-at-point'.
If i want the list object i call `list-at-point', and if i just want the
text representation i would call (thing-at-point 'list).
The fact that we have that duality in the code, i.e.
I) (thing-at-point 'foo)
II) (foo-at-point)
in some sense is asking for I) and II) returning two different things.
I find it easier if I) always return a string.
Note also that we don't need to define one version II) per each THING:
just in the few cases where it has sense to return the THING with a
different type than a string. We already have defined all II) functions
in `thingatpt.el'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-11 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-01 1:59 bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t Tino Calancha
2015-09-05 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13 7:00 ` bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t) Tino Calancha
2016-11-04 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 18:31 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-04 19:27 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 20:21 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 9:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-07 15:00 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 15:01 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 20:03 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 3:17 ` bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' should return a string Tino Calancha
2016-11-07 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 19:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-07 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 19:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-07 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 20:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-08 13:15 ` Tino Calancha
2016-11-08 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-09 0:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-09 6:43 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-09 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-09 23:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 16:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 17:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 18:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 21:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-11 10:07 ` Tino Calancha [this message]
2016-11-11 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 14:13 ` Tino Calancha
2016-11-11 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 14:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-11 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 14:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-11 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 15:05 ` Tino Calancha
2016-11-11 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-14 1:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-14 2:43 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-14 10:26 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-14 15:19 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-16 13:49 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-16 14:45 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-14 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-15 7:18 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-14 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 18:27 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-09 17:58 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-09 23:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 0:40 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-10 8:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2016-11-07 16:10 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 17:22 ` bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t) Andreas Röhler
2016-11-07 17:37 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-08 8:43 ` Andreas Röhler
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