From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: messages appear on stderr in batch mode Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302074272 31427 80.91.229.12 (6 Apr 2011 07:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:17:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 06 09:17:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7Mzp-0004w1-3t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 09:17:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58305 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q7Mzl-00082T-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:17:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56996 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q7Mzd-00081P-ND for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:17:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7MzY-0003ov-G5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:17:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:47543) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7MzY-0003oq-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:17:28 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47000) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7MzY-0000BF-07; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:17:28 -0400 X-Spook: nitrate Attorney General Ft. Meade Saudi Arabia analyzer X-Ran: \_${*dv.'YyC7rk0O+yD{MgP8F?$/zCCzETxrD#I~MXuIa|_QnoW0>pNV0Muwb[mH5Fzfi X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138215 Archived-At: I never noticed before, but: emacs -Q --batch --eval '(message "hello")' prints "hello" on stderr, not stdout. This is a little annoying when trying to write automated build scripts etc for Emacs, since stderr is full of noise, and any real errors can be hard to spot. I guess there is a reason for this, since it is in the manual (and the man page, no less); but why?