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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::241 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220865 Archived-At: On 12/10/17 10:39 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Forget all the messages. Forget the politics. There are only 2 > questions that need to be answered: Can you modify your branch such > that it doesn't remove prog-indentation-context, doesn't replace > prog-widen with widen, and leaves prog-first-column as a function? You seem to be asking to "modify your branch to a nil changeset". I repeat: the branch does not "replace prog-widen with widen". It removes prog-widen, and all but one of its invocations, entirely. prog-first-column a function, sure. But it has to be backed by some data. prog-indentation-context, remaining purely for its first element? We can do that, if you'd insist, though I hardly see the point from either perspective. So, yes and no, I'm not sure how to keep prog-indentation-context around in a meaningful way (without changing it incompatibly). > And if so, can the resulting changeset allow reasonable MMM-style > multi-mode support in Emacs? Having said the above, not sure how to respond here. > If the answer to both questions is YES, then we have a clear way > forward, and can stop talking. I think you have asked these questions before, and I answered them, too.