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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250747 Archived-At: On 18.05.2020 16:02, martin rudalics wrote: > > Could you share your config? Perhaps we could make it into a > package,  too. > > An old version is on the last line of that thread > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=33498 > > but I attach the latest version here. Thank you. If I visit the file and M-x eval-buffer, I get this error: Error setting pop-up-mini-mode: (error ’pop-up-mini-mode’ needs a minibuffer-only frame) (Whether I start from 'emacs -Q' or not.) > > Now that we have set-message-function and clear-message-function, > couldn't you move message display somewhere else? > > Nirvana would be a good choice.  But I haven't tried yet. This one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEdit