From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:05:13 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20160518194708.27363.47377@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20160518194708.86FE0220157@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <834m9u9dis.fsf@gnu.org> <5jy474fxib.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8360u88vue.fsf@gnu.org> <834m9s8spf.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpmn7vhy.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463814373 4810 80.91.229.3 (21 May 2016 07:06:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Leo Liu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 21 09:06:04 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b40z3-0005zB-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 09:06:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39143 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b40z3-0006IZ-2F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 03:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58419) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b40yu-0006IS-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 03:05:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b40ys-0007CL-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 03:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from forward6j.cmail.yandex.net ([5.255.227.107]:54117) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b40yn-0007B0-M0; Sat, 21 May 2016 03:05:46 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward6j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7564B21BE5; Sat, 21 May 2016 10:05:30 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id CAAC97E029B; Sat, 21 May 2016 10:05:29 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id PvgMYHm4bD-5SpORl7n; Sat, 21 May 2016 10:05:29 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1463814329; bh=uI8J2WLFyrkimptAkRIunNOd0qb3X6J8mFX/5a+wVtM=; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VTLuP9ULcwgFefNOdfjuM15GBRaZdRO3lsKqg/tFAlEPpXtPeV4aFT1w2fuRW3rEy 20IZ7KL3AESlQowL+1kc86Q/GqtWZJ2FefyFZpgqkNJUt1HqoPWesmJur/uGodqMEx MxFkyiRFXIYE141Ur7gtvC2OZA9j4XBMFeZ7nDIc= Authentication-Results: smtp11.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru X-Yandex-ForeignMX: US X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1 In-Reply-To: <83wpmn7vhy.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.255.227.107 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203925 Archived-At: On 05/21/2016 09:52 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I don't see how a single autoload could produce such a dramatic > effect. I guess that depends on the kinds of problems that having autoloaded defcustoms would bring up. > Avoiding such autoloading unless strictly necessary is still > good practice, IMO. Right. And since the issue is marginal, the "strictly necessary" is under dispute here.