From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28597: 26.0.60; [Security] Configure should use --without-pop by default Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:00:47 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <837ewh8x5z.fsf@gnu.org> <87ing17akt.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <834lrl75o6.fsf@gnu.org> <877ewh74oq.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83mv5d5ngv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fub131om.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83y3ot1mmi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506967279 15294 195.159.176.226 (2 Oct 2017 18:01:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:01:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, rpluim@gmail.com, 28597@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , "N. Jackson" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 02 20:01:12 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51g-0003DB-Bt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:01:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53596 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51n-0007hx-MR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46431) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51b-0007fr-La for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51a-0002jJ-UY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51a-0002jA-Pn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51a-0001bp-Cm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28597 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28597-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28597.15069672616162 (code B ref 28597); Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28597) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2017 18:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44506 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51Y-0001bK-Jj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:01:00 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:41432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dz51U-0001ay-ID for 28597@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEE0160E00; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 54VWvlcZ9ljR; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234C4160E03; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:00:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id TGLzJ0i1CSR0; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 06A1B160E00; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:00:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83y3ot1mmi.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:137798 Archived-At: On 10/02/2017 10:32 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > POP3 is not something movemail will silently use > by itself, the user needs to specify a POP3 "url", referencing the > server and the user's id (and possibly a password as well) for it to > do so. So the user who does that_knows_ they use POP3. I'm dubious. These days, email clients often use some sort of secure connection by default even if you just ask for POP. For example, Thunderbird's mail account setup defaults to IMAP, but if you specify POP3 it then defaults to autodetecting SSL/TLS or STARTTLS; you must explicitly override the default (or specify a server that does not support encryption) to get an unencrypted connection. Users accustomed to other email clients are likely to expect that Emacs "pop:whatever" will do something similar.