Re: Behavior of M-x and A-x

["B. T. Raven" <nihil@nihilo.net>]

Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote:
> B. T. Raven wrote:
>> Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote:
>>> Xah wrote:
>>>> ; setting the PC keyboard's various keys to Super or Hyper
>>>> (setq w32-pass-lwindow-to-system nil
>>>>       w32-pass-rwindow-to-system nil
>>>>       w32-pass-apps-to-system nil
>>>>       w32-lwindow-modifier 'super ;; Left Windows key
>>>>       w32-rwindow-modifier 'super ;; Right Windows key
>>>>       w32-apps-modifier 'hyper) ;; Menu key
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that using lwindow/rwindow like this does not work for 
>>> all key sequences unless you are using the patched Emacs+EmacsW32.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Could you give me an example of this, Lennart. I use Keytweak (and 
>> rearranged keycaps for Dvorak and a bilaterally symmetrical modifier 
>> key layout [bottom row: super alt ctl spacebar ctl alt super hyper] 
>> and I haven't run into any problems with it yet. I am not using 
>> EmacsW32 although I have had it installed in the past. The only things 
>> that get through from the OS when I'm in Emacs are Alt-Tab and 
>> Ctl-Alt-Delete.
> 
> 
> I do not remember very well any longer since I use the patched version 
> where this can not happen (if you tell Emacs to protect you from it). 
> However it could happen with any of those lwindow/rwindow combinations 
> that MS Window uses. I know I first noticed it with lwindow-e.
> 
> Though it might depend on other things too. The only thing I know is 
> that it is not guaranteed to work at all if you are not using the 
> patches I have in Emacs+EmacsW32. (I mean accordning to the specs from MS.)
> 
> If you want to know more then look at MS for LowLevelKeyboardProc.
> 
> That is why I have those patches. And by the way those part of the 
> patches does not change Emacs way of workin in any other way. They work 
> on a lower level that the rest of Emacs does not see.
> 
> If I remember correctly now there is however no guaranteed way at all to 
> stop Alt-Tab and Ctl-Alt-Delete from working.

Thanks again. Besides S-e, S- r,f,m, and d, both right and left, also 
raise the OS. That should be easy to remember. Since I don't want to 
bother disabling those keychords  I will make a virtue of necessity and 
consider the behavior to be a feature rather than a bug. These reserved 
keys almost make a mnemonic:

R(T)FM, DummEe ;-)

Ed