From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: ASCII-folded search [was: Re: Upcoming loss of usability ...] Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87ioamz8if.fsf@petton.fr> <32013464-2300-46c6-ba46-4a3c36bfee5d@default> <87twu62nnt.fsf@mbork.pl> <87oakdfwim.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83wpz1lh7c.fsf@gnu.org> <83oakdl7yj.fsf@gnu.org> <83ioall3x5.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9pzxtyi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87k2uudoqr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87616c94g4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h9pw6922.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a8vn75r7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <0f72b0bd-0170-414c-b926-0b836a973d67@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435344190 25902 80.91.229.3 (26 Jun 2015 18:43:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Stefan Monnier , Kaushal , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel , "Stephen J. Turnbull" To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 26 20:42:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8YaT-0007LA-Qn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 20:42:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33448 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8YaS-0006Tw-SD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:42:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48141) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8YaO-0006R6-Mb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8YaN-0007tO-It for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:42:48 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:18458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8YaI-0007rr-Lt; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:42:42 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5QIgaWp007132 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:42:38 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5QIgZ22020048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:42:35 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5QIgZ1T005985; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:42:35 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187575 Archived-At: > > However, as has been discussed in several threads in the past, > > here and in the bug list, there are several char-folding > > possibilities that we might want to offer. > > > > There are any number of reasonable, default character equivalence > > classes that you can think of. And users themselves can come up > > with any number of other such equivalence classes, some of which > > are specific to a particular context. >=20 > True, and which equivalence classes to offer is a whole new topic > all by itself. It's not a separate topic if we are now discussing whether to indicate char folding in the mode-line etc. > But the implementation is there now, all it takes it to offer > more tables for it. Irrelevant to the discussion of indicating char-folding in the mode-line. The point is that if multiple (and many!) kinds of char folding are available, indicating any one of them - let alone any combination of them - in the mode-line (as a whole, let alone in the lighter!) is problematic. And it would not be very helpful to have only an indicator that said whether or not there was currently *some* char folding.