From: Terje Bless <link@pobox.com>
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
xemacs-design@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:23:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa4ta8$fbb$2@main.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vafg01mk5tm.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
Kai Groþjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> wrote:
>"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:
>
>>>>>>>"Terje" == Terje Bless <link@pobox.com> writes:
>>
>>Terje> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> wrote:
>>
>>>>If you refuse to learn,
>>
>>Many of the XEmacs developers who sympathize far more with you than he
>>does (or, to be honest, me) are being silent for various reasons.
>
>I think Eli is sympathizing with Terje. Does "refuse" perhaps convey a
>stronger meaning to a native English speaker than I thought at first?
>
>For me, Eli was simply saying: if you don't want to learn, you might be
>missing something. (I hope that "don't want" is less strong than
>"refuse", so that my point comes across.)
The connotations of the word "refuse" is probably what's causing the
confusion, yes. And it was, to be fair, me that used the word. cf. my other
message here.
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[not found] <f01050101-1013-2EBD099554C511D6B75900039300CF5C@[192.168.1.7]>
2002-04-21 1:45 ` The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date) Hrvoje Niksic
2002-04-21 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <sxssn5pvn7u.fsf@florida.arsdigita.de>
2002-04-21 2:10 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-21 3:21 ` Michael Toomim
2002-04-21 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-21 15:11 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-21 17:17 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-04-21 19:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <sxsbscdt1i3.fsf@florida.arsdigita.de>
2002-04-21 19:40 ` Michael Toomim
[not found] ` <3CC31593.1040001@cs.berkeley.edu>
2002-04-22 3:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] ` <7263-Sun21Apr2002220242+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il>
2002-04-21 21:30 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-22 3:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-22 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 11:33 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <vafg01mk5tm.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
2002-04-23 12:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-23 13:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-23 13:34 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <vafg01mh72r.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
2002-04-23 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-23 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 23:23 ` Terje Bless [this message]
2002-04-23 22:27 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-22 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22 4:18 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-23 3:07 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-23 11:26 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <3CC23021.5090506@cs.berkeley.edu>
2002-04-21 15:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] <000401c1ebfa$5bc43060$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI>
2002-05-01 8:33 ` Michael Toomim
[not found] <Pine.SUN.3.91.1020424090919.4915F-100000@is>
2002-04-25 2:04 ` Hrvoje Niksic
[not found] <f01050101-1014-AEEDD9C8571711D6A31200039300CF5C@[192.168.1.7]>
2002-04-24 9:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] <f01050101-1014-BA54C556571711D6A31200039300CF5C@[192.168.1.7]>
2002-04-24 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <f01050101-1014-A82EBF4C571711D6A31200039300CF5C@[192.168.1.7]>
2002-04-24 0:43 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-04-24 6:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 9:23 ` Michael Toomim
[not found] <m2k7qymbos.fsf@sandman.balestra.org>
2002-04-24 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 16:31 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-24 0:08 Terje Bless
[not found] <vafk7qyk64g.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
2002-04-23 23:21 ` Terje Bless
[not found] ` <f01050101-1014-AC0D4356571711D6A31200039300CF5C@[192.168.1.7]>
2002-04-24 3:45 ` Sean MacLennan
2002-04-24 10:15 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-24 17:40 ` Jan D.
[not found] <Pine.SUN.3.91.1020423173957.27983A@is>
2002-04-23 16:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-23 18:38 ` Michael Matthew Toomim
2002-04-23 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <2950-Tue23Apr2002222955+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il>
2002-04-23 22:13 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-23 23:51 ` Michael Toomim
[not found] <Pine.SUN.3.91.1020423093250.22959G-100000@is>
2002-04-23 7:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-23 11:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <rj662jq5ef.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
2002-04-22 12:59 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204221304080.3349-100000@yxa.extundo.com>
2002-04-22 12:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-23 19:31 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] <buoelh89xik.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-04-22 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <000501c1e8b4$abd058c0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI>
2002-04-21 15:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] <Pine.SUN.3.91.1020421092955.2767F-100000@is>
2002-04-21 15:29 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-21 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 3:07 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-23 18:42 ` Michael Matthew Toomim
2002-04-23 23:14 ` Terje Bless
[not found] ` <3CC5AB1D.5000004@cs.berkeley.edu>
2002-04-23 18:52 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-04-25 1:41 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-25 1:41 ` Andy Piper
[not found] <000601c1e8b5$2960f830$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI>
2002-04-21 10:57 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-04-21 14:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] <87sn5q2mj4.fsf@amaterasu.srvr.nix>
2002-04-21 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <f01050101-1013-195C612D544F11D6B75900039300CF5C@[192.168.1.7]>
2002-04-20 11:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <7263-Sat20Apr2002145929+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il>
2002-04-20 12:22 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-20 14:04 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-20 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-20 18:59 ` Andreas Schwab
[not found] ` <E16ywpH-0004J0-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
2002-04-20 19:48 ` Hrvoje Niksic
[not found] ` <sxs8z7inobz.fsf@florida.arsdigita.de>
2002-04-21 0:56 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-21 5:41 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-21 5:57 ` Hrvoje Niksic
[not found] ` <sxsu1q5twz5.fsf@florida.arsdigita.de>
2002-04-21 7:24 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <87adrxo6o7.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp>
2002-04-21 12:21 ` Robert J. Chassell
[not found] ` <m16zGLO-000IiIC@localhost>
2002-04-21 13:35 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-23 11:17 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-21 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-20 19:17 ` Michael Toomim
[not found] ` <3CC1BEB9.9020104@cs.berkeley.edu>
2002-04-20 19:28 ` Kyle Jones
2002-04-20 19:33 ` Nix
2002-04-20 19:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
[not found] ` <87elhap2r4.fsf@lgh163a.kemisten.nu>
2002-04-21 1:09 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-21 11:37 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2002-04-21 3:28 ` Michael Toomim
[not found] ` <3CC231D2.6020709@cs.berkeley.edu>
2002-04-21 11:25 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
[not found] ` <873cxpz436.fsf@lgh163a.kemisten.nu>
2002-04-21 15:41 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-21 17:54 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2002-04-21 17:08 ` Robert J. Chassell
[not found] ` <m16zKoy-000IioC@localhost>
2002-04-21 17:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
[not found] ` <15553.49507.745094.604981@ice.wonderworks.com>
2002-04-21 0:04 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-21 3:24 ` Michael Toomim
[not found] ` <3CC230D1.2040106@cs.berkeley.edu>
2002-04-21 3:46 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <87adrypnjn.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp>
2002-04-20 19:33 ` Michael Toomim
2002-04-20 23:58 ` Terje Bless
[not found] ` <3CC1C275.6090009@cs.berkeley.edu>
2002-04-20 21:26 ` Kyle Jones
[not found] ` <15553.56593.407791.923999@ice.wonderworks.com>
2002-04-20 21:48 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-20 23:16 ` Michael Toomim
2002-04-21 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-20 23:48 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-20 14:12 ` Serge Wroclawski
2002-04-20 16:28 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-20 18:51 ` Matt Tucker
[not found] <4.3.2.7.2.20020419095141.00bf8580@san-francisco.beasys.com>
2002-04-20 15:44 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-20 16:59 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-20 19:42 ` Hrvoje Niksic
[not found] ` <sxshem6nolr.fsf@florida.arsdigita.de>
2002-04-21 3:47 ` Michael Toomim
2002-04-21 8:44 ` Per Abrahamsen
[not found] <4.3.2.7.2.20020417123512.0398e4c8@san-francisco.beasys.com>
2002-04-19 11:40 ` Per Abrahamsen
[not found] ` <rjk7r3zzk4.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
2002-04-19 16:27 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-19 16:55 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-20 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <m2g01rbjhi.fsf@sandman.balestra.org>
2002-04-19 20:28 ` Andy Piper
[not found] ` <m2d6wvodpt.fsf@sandman.balestra.org>
2002-04-19 17:00 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-20 11:03 ` Terje Bless
2002-04-20 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <200204201727.g3KHRTg01417@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-04-21 2:06 ` Brady Montz
[not found] ` <m2wuv1yfdj.fsf@sandman.balestra.org>
2002-04-21 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-21 7:35 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-21 15:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] ` <87vgal3w79.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-04-21 17:17 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-21 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <m2d6wtx97q.fsf@sandman.balestra.org>
2002-04-21 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22 2:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] ` <87vgak30cw.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-04-22 16:54 ` Brady Montz
[not found] ` <m2elh7wu6m.fsf@sandman.balestra.org>
2002-04-22 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <7263-Mon22Apr2002224014+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il>
2002-04-22 20:46 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-23 4:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-23 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <87bscbysbm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-04-23 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 16:21 ` Brady Montz
[not found] ` <m2r8l6v108.fsf@sandman.balestra.org>
2002-04-23 17:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] ` <878z7euysa.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-04-23 18:20 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-23 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <7263-Tue23Apr2002222135+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il>
2002-04-23 19:56 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-23 23:00 ` Michael Toomim
2002-04-24 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <2950-Sun21Apr2002220958+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il>
2002-04-22 16:56 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-21 9:01 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-21 20:21 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] ` <ilusn5o950a.fsf@extundo.com>
2002-04-22 8:50 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-22 9:00 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <buoy9fg85ve.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-04-22 10:44 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-22 11:12 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] ` <rjk7r0ovw9.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
2002-04-22 12:36 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-22 22:36 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <4.3.2.7.2.20020419095654.00bee3c0@san-francisco.beasys.com>
2002-04-19 19:01 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-20 17:28 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <200204201728.g3KHSDW01513@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-04-20 21:45 ` Andy Piper
2002-04-21 15:54 ` William M. Perry
[not found] ` <4.3.2.7.2.20020419132421.00bfa9d0@san-francisco.beasys.com>
2002-04-19 20:39 ` Brady Montz
2002-04-20 23:53 ` William M. Perry
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