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>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:

    >> Furthermore, Eli implies that the cost of reducing the barriers
    >> is quite high (elsewhere in the thread).

    Eli> I guess this depends on your definition of ``quite high''.

Same as yours:

    Eli> In general, work on documentation requires a large effort,
    Eli> even just to keep the docs up-to-date.  It might, for
    Eli> example, tie up one or two dedicated volunteers full time.

And I share your concern that the kinds of changes we're discussing
are likely to add burdens of nearly this order of magnitude (+20%, say).

So we need to be smart about these kinds of changes.

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