From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Piper Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:28:17 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020419095654.00bee3c0@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020417123512.0398e4c8@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020419095654.00bee3c0@san-francisco.beasys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019248331 14738 127.0.0.1 (19 Apr 2002 20:32:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16yf3C-0003pb-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:32:10 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16yfMi-000131-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:52:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yf1H-0002AU-00; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ext007579.bea.com ([63.96.164.130] helo=usmailrelay.beasys.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yeyX-0001xa-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g3JKRJB00953; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.33]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29060; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:27:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Original-To: Brady Montz , xemacs-design@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2808 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2808 At 12:01 PM 4/19/02 -0700, Brady Montz wrote: >That's the impression I'd gotten. I haven't yet had the chance to take >a look at it. > >Am I mistaken that the differences between gtk and other native >graphics code is exposed to lisp? That is, the lisp widget library >knows about them? In general this is incorrect, the same lisp code works on Windows, GTK, Motif and Athena. However, its fair to say that some things are more fully implemented on some platforms than others. Bill's comments about geometry managers while true for X-variants and Java do not apply to Windows. So I am pessmistic about attempts to push more of the work out to the widgets. I certainly do not believe that we should start using GTK etc on windows to solve this problem. I think Netscape's 6 use of non-windows widgets is a disaster since it makes the application a) very bloated and b) not look like a windows app. andy