From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Learning "my emacs" from the start (was: Generating a listing of all symbols) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <3defe928-5d2e-4d3b-bc26-f595f275f840@googlegroups.com> <19937386-3859-46d4-9677-ed2f1b8c5698@googlegroups.com> <20140420171311.GA27790@hysteria.proulx.com> <856f5985-738c-4842-a05b-c3023f598c55@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398130828 10176 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2014 01:40:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:40:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 03:40:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WcPh5-0003wp-2H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 03:40:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52316 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcPh4-0007ij-C5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 21:40:18 -0400 X-Received: by 10.52.28.116 with SMTP id a20mr16128101vdh.2.1398130629461; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:37:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.8.1 with SMTP id n1mr626743iga.5.1398130629228; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!cm18no4964352qab.0!news-out.google.com!gi6ni583igc.0!nntp.google.com!c1no1748142igq.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.7.126; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.7.126 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:37:09 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205040 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97305 Archived-At: On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:31:28 AM UTC+5:30, Bob Proulx wrote: > Rusi wrote: > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Bob Proulx wrote > > > > One problem is that the standard emacs keys appear to be changing. I > > > > like the traditional emacs keys. But many people prefer CUA mode. > > > > CUA mode drives me crazy. Much of my .emacs file is to change things > > > > back to traditional settings. > > > The standard keybindings are changing (slowly) to be more friendly to > > > newcomers. We the veteran users count less, since we already know how > > > to customize Emacs to behave like we are used to. > > Thank you for these sentiments! > Sorry but I disagree. Unfortunately that sounds all too much like the > common, "I love you. You're perfect. Now change." :-( Yes we disagree! > I really don't mind people creating new modes and new programs with > different keybindings. That's great. It is only when that breaks it > for existing users that I think it is bad. Old keybindings are lower priority (for me) than new users