From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:51:37 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <87twe6sx2g.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87eg51ng4r.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <87k2djwumn.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83h98nidvd.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg3rvtsf.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83k2dihpm9.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p2wzgj.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <838ttyhhzu.fsf@gnu.org> <871szqwu51.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <831szqhbc2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1itt79z.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <7baa18d4-2b09-caa8-005e-29008a383ad1@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvhwrgd5.fsf@gnu.org> <8539f38f-9a11-44c3-4de7-bb974c96206c@cs.ucla.edu> <83d1iq5ib1.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3753c8j.fsf@gnu.org> <83r374wh32.fsf@gnu.org> <20161027093530.3e5be6cb@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477580533 14848 195.159.176.226 (27 Oct 2016 15:02:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 15:02:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 Cc: eliz@gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, Fabrice Popineau , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Perry E. Metzger" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 27 17:01:57 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bzmBX-0008OR-Nq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:01:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42137 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzmBa-0006JV-7c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 11:01:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34910) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzm23-0006ug-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzm22-0005Kc-Mr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:51:51 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:43622) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzm1x-0005HN-VV; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:51:46 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECE9161014; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id p5KYx11wab1h; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51857161012; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 2JFHfRcR9JSH; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31EBC16100C; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:51:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20161027093530.3e5be6cb@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208873 Archived-At: On 10/27/2016 06:35 AM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > Could the new dynamic loading feature be used here so it wouldn't be necessary to re-link emacs? It might be doable, though I expect it'd be more work. Dynamic loading purposely isolates modules from Emacs internals, and most likely we'd need several bridges over that moat. On 10/27/2016 06:44 AM, Fabrice Popineau wrote: > I find it disturbing that a C compiler will be needed to redump Emacs. It's a tradeoff, yes. My impression is that the rare user who redumps Emacs typically has a C compiler installed or can easily install one, so it shouldn't be much to ask.