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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295599 Archived-At: On 19.09.2022 00:00, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> On 18.09.2022 23:30, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >>>> 2. history does not show for eglot.el or lisp/progmodes, but only as part >>>> of entire emacs repo >>> I know that João said he didn't want to discuss the topic, but I'll say >>> it anyway. The necessity to preserve the history seems superfluous to >>> me. emacs.git has projects like Org or the Modus Themes that are >>> developed out of tree and are regularly synchronised back without any >>> major issues. >> Org is still being developed out of tree, though. So any history digs >> are probably going to occur in its own repo. >> IIUC, Joao want to move Eglot entirely into Emacs and be done with >> github at some soon-ish point. > I am not sure about that, in his message he wrote the following: > > 5. Arrange for the eglot.el file in Eglot's current upstream -- > https://github.com/joaotavora/eglot -- to mirror > src/progmodes/eglot.el, ideally (but not necessarily) automatically > > This is so that: > > 5.1 Users of bare Git clones can continue mostly unimpeded. > > 5.2 GitHub users can still suggest changes as "Pull Requests" > via GitHub's interface > > 5.3 The current GitHub actions CI -- where installation of third-party > language servers is relatively easy -- can run at least the current > eglot-tests.el. > > Maybe there would be a point in "copying" the history into emacs.git, > but this is a continuous process that would have to be synchronised on > both sides (emacs.git and GitHub) all the time. That sounds like more > effort than the history is worth. Maybe I misunderstood, then. But if the full move is never going to happen, I think the elpa-bundling approach seems like a better option all-around. It just need a little more work and (perhaps significantly) more attention from the maintainers.