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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul  [was: mykie.el]
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:29:51 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a62bb795-44d9-44dd-b17a-d5294c21d2b0@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqic65kj.fsf@wanadoo.es>

> >> GNU ELPA (enabled by default with Emacs, unlike MELPA or
> >> Marmalade).
> >
> > Apropos: Why shouldn't GNU Emacs enable all three by default?
> >
> > That would help GNU Emacs users more, I think.
> 
> One easy answer is that MELPA and Marmalade are non under the
> control of the Emacs prooject.

So?  GNU Emacs is not responsible for whatever it might be that
those repos have or do.  And I think we (should) know by now
that most, if not all, of what they do can be helpful for Emacs
users.

> A more serious concern is that some (all?) of the packages MELPA
> offers are development versions (i.e. unreleased, mostly untested).

Even if that were true - so what?  And what's a "development
version"?  What does "unreleased" mean?  How tested is "tested"?

The fact that you would even think of writing "(all?)" is, I think,
indicative of how far off the mark you are on this.

> I know of at least one case where unwary users obtained from MELPA
> a broken package, causing much grief among users and developers
> alike.

So what?  See above.  GNU Emacs is not responsible for those repos
just because it might include their names in the list of repos 
available by default.  (If you want, provide a `parental-control'
command that lets a Mother Hen remove certain repos from the list
as a preventative measure. ;-))

When you buy a Samsung TV and it comes enabled for use by Netflix
(provided you subscribe), does that make Samsung responsible for
something that Netflix might offer?  Good luck with a law suit
that makes that claim.

Should `eww' give users access, by default, only to web sites
that GNU Emacs Dev (TM) has vetted ("tested", "released"...)?
Who will do all the vetting?

Think users, not lawyers.  This is not GNanny, or at least it
did not used to be.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-07  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-03 20:09 mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-03 21:37 ` mykie.el Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-04  1:08   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-06 22:47     ` mykie.el, mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-06 23:00       ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Drew Adams
2014-01-06 23:42         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-07  0:29           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-01-07  1:08             ` Eric Brown
2014-01-07  5:39               ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07  8:33                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-07  8:38                 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 14:41                 ` Grim Schjetne
2014-01-07 15:12                   ` Stephen Berman
2014-01-07 17:44                     ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 20:55                       ` Stephen Berman
2014-01-08 11:52                         ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-08 13:19                           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-08 14:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 17:19                       ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul Glenn Morris
2014-01-07 17:44                   ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Drew Adams
2014-01-08  3:41                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-08  4:26                       ` Bob Bobeck
2014-01-08 10:50                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-08 17:54                         ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-09  3:00                           ` Andy Moreton
2014-01-09  6:55                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-09  7:55                           ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-09 11:24                             ` chad
2014-01-09 18:15                             ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-08  3:23                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-08 10:32                     ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 16:53             ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-08  3:15               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-08  9:27                 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]           ` <<a62bb795-44d9-44dd-b17a-d5294c21d2b0@default>
     [not found]             ` <<E1W0Zto-0000A5-VX@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-07 17:44               ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 16:16         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07 17:44           ` Drew Adams
2014-01-08  3:41             ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-04  2:02   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-04  4:34 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  8:36   ` mykie.el Leo Liu
2014-01-05  8:10   ` mykie.el Mitchel Humpherys
2014-01-05 10:29     ` mykie.el Leo Liu
2014-01-06 16:09   ` mykie.el Nicolas Richard
2014-01-06 22:38   ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07  0:37     ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 23:21       ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08  3:24         ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 15:44           ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 16:11             ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 16:38               ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 17:24                 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-09  8:13               ` mykie.el Tassilo Horn
2014-01-09 15:29                 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-09 18:43                   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-11 20:23                   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-12 14:45                     ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12 18:32                       ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-12 19:46                         ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12 22:51                           ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-13  3:38                             ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-13  4:59                               ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-13 14:03                                 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-13 16:09                                   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-08 21:21             ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-06  5:31 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada

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