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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309398 Archived-At: --282f0df7688a42ce93252e8c141c9425 Content-Type: text/plain > And we Emacs developers should have a say in how we plan to protect our > right to distribute copies or develop our project, no? Sure, but I fail to see to see how is this related to the inclusion of any third-party package in NonGNU ELPA. On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, at 3:31 AM, Po Lu wrote: > "Bozhidar Batsov" writes: > > > I believe this conversation has drifted a lot from the original topic > > (clojure-ts-mode). I have to say I'm a bit frustrated that every time > > someone wants to submit something to NonGNU ELPA there's some push to > > either submit to GNU ELPA or core instead. I've been maintaining > > almost all of the Clojure dev tooling for Emacs for over a decade, so > > I do believe that by now I know what I'm doing and how I want to do > > things. I've said a million times by now that I don't want > > contributors to have to deal with copyright agreements and with > > quirks/oddities in the Emacs development process. I believe that the > > maintainers who actually work on something should be allowed to decide > > how their projects get developed. > > And we Emacs developers should have a say in how we plan to protect our > right to distribute copies or develop our project, no? > > --282f0df7688a42ce93252e8c141c9425 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And we Emacs developers should have a sa= y in how we plan to protect our
right to distribute copies= or develop our project, no?

S= ure, but I fail to see to see how is this related to the inclusion of an= y third-party package in NonGNU ELPA.

On M= on, Aug 28, 2023, at 3:31 AM, Po Lu wrote:
"Bozhidar Batsov" <bozhidar@batsov.dev> writes:
<= br>
> I believe this conversation has drifted a lot from th= e original topic
> (clojure-ts-mode). I have to say I'm= a bit frustrated that every time
> someone wants to su= bmit something to NonGNU ELPA there's some push to
> ei= ther submit to GNU ELPA or core instead. I've been maintaining
=
> almost all of the Clojure dev tooling for Emacs for over a dec= ade, so
> I do believe that by now I know what I'm doin= g and how I want to do
> things. I've said a million ti= mes by now that I don't want
> contributors to have to = deal with copyright agreements and with
> quirks/odditi= es in the Emacs development process. I believe that the
&g= t; maintainers who actually work on something should be allowed to decid= e
> how their projects get developed.
And we Emacs developers should have a say in how we plan to = protect our
right to distribute copies or develop our proj= ect, no?



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