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From: rustom <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About Emacs Modernisation Project
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:20:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5aa70f3-fa1b-473b-afb7-d5a30de076e0@x27g2000prf.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: A8adnU4nRdZtz5vRnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@sysmatrix.net

On Jun 2, 5:47 pm, "B. T. Raven" <ni...@nihilo.net> wrote:
> rustom wrote:
> > On Jun 1, 1:40 pm, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
> > wrote:
> >> Evans Winner <tho...@unm.edu> writes:
> >>> LanX <lanx.p...@googlemail.com> writes:
> >>>     No name spaces, no real lexical variables [...]
> >>> These are not bugs, they are features.  One uses the right
> >>> tool for the job.  It is highly unlikely that the language
> >>> of choice for serious hackers working on developing large,
> >>> complex systems is going to be the same language chosen for
> >>> casual text editor users who want to quickly and simply
> >>> customize some element of their editor.  
> >> Possibly.  However, if emacs was reprogrammed in Common Lisp, you
> >> could have both.  Naive users could be provided with an environment
> >> with only dynamic binding and a unique namespace, while sophisticated
> >> programmers could use all the features of Common Lisp.  Also, as
> >> mentionned in another post, it would be easier to implement other
> >> user-friend scripting languages in Common Lisp than in emacs lisp.
>
> > I remember seeing a paper (by a German I think) in which he claimed
> > that he could *fully automatically* translate elisp to scheme.  Does
> > anyone remember this? [My google foo is not up-to-the-mark...]
>
> It might have been this (out of Freiburg and Tuebingen, 2001):
>
> http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/sperber/papers/dynami...

Yeah this may be it but now when I see it it says it cant handle eval.
The last time I saw it it said it could handle eval (at least thats
what I remember) because I remember finding it incredible
[Without trying to prove it, translating eval correctly would amount
to solving the halting problem.  For those unfamiliar with CS
technicalities this is as anomalous as making say a perpetual motion
machine]

>
> Anyway, there is menttion of the el2scm project.
>
> Ed


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-02 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <143c6d28-4423-4e43-9fc5-c0fb3340043b@c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>
2010-05-31 15:44 ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]   ` <0e994fe3-6dde-449f-879d-6701c7a195a9@e28g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>
2010-05-31 19:41     ` Alessandro Piras
     [not found]       ` <c41c63c0-b934-442d-8385-1abff6ab9b0b@s41g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-01  0:40         ` Alessandro Piras
2010-06-02  6:07       ` Xah Lee
     [not found]       ` <87iq63wsvt.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>
2010-06-01  0:06         ` LanX
2010-06-01  8:44           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 11:19             ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:56               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02  6:17         ` Xah Lee
     [not found] ` <87ljazofkn.fsf@rapttech.com.au>
2010-05-31 23:33   ` LanX
2010-06-01 10:28     ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 11:27       ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:29         ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 12:55           ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:59             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 12:59           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 17:05       ` Xah Lee
2010-06-02 17:50         ` Helmut Eller
     [not found]     ` <87r5krh3e0.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01  8:40       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 17:34         ` rustom
2010-06-02 12:47           ` B. T. Raven
2010-06-02 17:20             ` rustom [this message]
2010-06-01 19:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 23:22         ` LanX
     [not found]           ` <slrni0b8nm.9k6.bergv@u00.math.uiuc.edu>
2010-06-02 11:39             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]           ` <e73e123d-3f0c-4a6f-bbac-b91fb71bf07d@f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-03  9:26             ` Emulating namespaces Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-03 15:33               ` LanX
2010-06-03 17:41                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]         ` <87mxvegz12.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01 23:36           ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02  5:58             ` Evans Winner
2010-06-04 18:33     ` Joseph Brenner
2010-06-05  2:55       ` Tim X

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