From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32463: 27.0.50; (logior -1) => 4611686018427387903 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:28:49 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <5230a57b-5896-606d-f157-2e547710b6e8@cs.ucla.edu> <87sh362vc7.fsf@tromey.com> <33788740-9361-4883-c5a5-279da6ae4739@cs.ucla.edu> <83pnyab6nb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1534984030 24180 195.159.176.226 (23 Aug 2018 00:27:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 00:27:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cc: tom@tromey.com, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 32463@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 23 02:27:05 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdSq-00067c-Ow for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 02:27:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33233 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdUv-0003rk-Hi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35134) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdUq-0003rc-1O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdUm-0005pY-1P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdUl-0005pG-TS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdUk-00045j-BC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:29:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 00:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32463 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 32463-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32463.153498414015718 (code B ref 32463); Thu, 23 Aug 2018 00:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2018 00:29:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdUi-00045S-Gk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:29:00 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:54564) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsdUf-00045C-Vg for 32463@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C101606D7; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id Jqr1Vq9Uuzal; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D461607BB; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:28:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id yNbHG7N9Xddv; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.154.30.119]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63A091606D7; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:28:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83pnyab6nb.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:149676 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I'd rather we left the name alone. It's a veteran name, burnt into > our muscle memory by many years of coding in Emacs. But the name 'make_number' means something completely different now; it has a different signature, it is a lot more expensive than it used to be, and it cannot be used the way the old name could be used. So now is a good time to change the name anyway, regardless of whether the name choice was a good one originally. We already changed the name XINT and friends, even though their semantics didn't change. It would be odd if we didn't fix make_number too, while we're in the neighborhood, since the case for changing it is even stronger than the case for XINT etc.