emacs android port has 124 permissions? privacy implications?

emacs android port has 124 permissions? privacy implications?

[జిందం వాఐి]

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* emacs android port was announced! [ 1 ]
* it will be available in 30 [2]
* release covered on lwn also [3]
* available in f-droid repo [4]
* just discovered thread which was
created on independence day. ironic. [5]
* there are few reasons for writing here
* dont have inner workings of android apps
* insufficient knowledge about android os
* without having valid reason or concern,
cannot post on emacs-devel
* just hoping for some discussion or
insight related to impact of permissions
on privacy.

[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-12/msg01358.html
[2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/etc/NEWS.30#n36
[3] https://lwn.net/Articles/959931/
[4] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.gnu.emacs/
[5] https://forum.f-droid.org/t/emacs-excessive-permissions/27019

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Re: emacs android port has 124 permissions? privacy implications?

[W. Greenhouse via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

జిందం వాఐి <jindam.vani@disroot.org> writes:

> * emacs android port was announced! [ 1 ]
> * it will be available in 30 [2]
> * release covered on lwn also [3]
> * available in f-droid repo [4]
> * just discovered thread which was
> created on independence day. ironic. [5]
> * there are few reasons for writing here
> * dont have inner workings of android apps
> * insufficient knowledge about android os
> * without having valid reason or concern,
> cannot post on emacs-devel
> * just hoping for some discussion or
> insight related to impact of permissions
> on privacy.
>
> [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-12/msg01358.html
> [2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/etc/NEWS.30#n36
> [3] https://lwn.net/Articles/959931/
> [4] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.gnu.emacs/
> [5] https://forum.f-droid.org/t/emacs-excessive-permissions/27019

If you don't trust free software to do what you expect, don't install
it.

Permissions are needed to interact with the host (Android) system.

"Excessive" is a value judgment based on what you expect the software to
be able to do.

Re: emacs android port has 124 permissions? privacy implications?

[Po Lu]

జిందం వాఐి <jindam.vani@disroot.org> writes:

> * emacs android port was announced! [ 1 ]
> * it will be available in 30 [2]
> * release covered on lwn also [3]
> * available in f-droid repo [4]
> * just discovered thread which was
> created on independence day. ironic. [5]
> * there are few reasons for writing here
> * dont have inner workings of android apps
> * insufficient knowledge about android os
> * without having valid reason or concern,
> cannot post on emacs-devel
> * just hoping for some discussion or
> insight related to impact of permissions
> on privacy.
>
> [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-12/msg01358.html
> [2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/etc/NEWS.30#n36
> [3] https://lwn.net/Articles/959931/
> [4] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.gnu.emacs/
> [5] https://forum.f-droid.org/t/emacs-excessive-permissions/27019

Emacs only receives permissions that are expressly granted to it from
Settings on Android 6.0+.  It never requests any permissions of itself,
but they must be declared in the manifest to enable users to grant them
at all.  By default, Emacs is no more privileged than other programs on
the system, unless users go out of their way to grant it every
permission that it requests.