From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: tumashu <tumashu@163.com>, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 15:31:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a3756767-1270-651a-9873-b92e64cfb635@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm53O=mrouk8pGOtyMtYsih_ha=xRBO63gVPGJ9bqUf2JdQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 02.06.2021 14:33, João Távora wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 12:28 PM Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> wrote:
>
>> It waits before fetching completions if input it too short. To save on
>> CPU usage or whatever.
>
> Makes sense. Even though it can be interrupted, doesn't mean we
> should start spinning up fans.
OTOH, ido-mode has lived with the "spinning up fans" behavior for ages,
and we don't hear much complaints about that. Or fan noise, really.
>> The proposed change doesn't add any latency. And it would be helpful to
>> have it working OOTB. But maybe disable if the user customizes the delay
>> to be higher.
>
> Indeed it doesn't, just tried it. So I have even less objection to doing it.
> Do you have a take on the reasons for this `icomplete-tidy` call in
> pre-command-hook?
All the justifications for the current behavior you have come up with
already, I suppose. Here and in the related Company discussion.
Simpler mental model, a guarantee of no "inconsistent" display, I
suppose. But the flicking is real annoying, it's one of the things that
has stopped my from migrating to fido-mode (somewhat lower performance
is the other).
> Anyway, the weirdness (and less flickering) could be solved by
> replacing xx/xx with of the same length ??/?? instead of deleting the
> overlay outright. But I'm fine with the weirdness too, to be honest.
> My main concern was typing latency, and it doesn't happen.
It might make sense to keep them at the previous values, to emphasize
that the output simply hasn't been updated yet. And to keep the prompt
from moving around twice.
As long as the delay is not too high (meaning, we do make it lower than
100ms), that behavior looks natural enough. The user just gets used to
"asynchronous" updates.
Here's one edge case that might warrant some looking into:
- fido-mode on (but not -vertical-mode).
- Have, like, only 2 buffers open.
- C-x b
Start typing an existing buffer's name, in the way that would create a
unique prefix match. icomplete will render it with cutoff prefix, like
ico[mplete.el]
where "ico" is input. If I backspace and type "o" again, there will be
an interval of time when two "o" will be shown. That looks kinda weird,
but probably still better than having it blink. Hopefully, this behavior
could still be improved, though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-02 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-22 21:00 [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations Daniel Mendler
2021-05-23 9:37 ` João Távora
2021-05-23 11:10 ` bug#48013: " Daniel Mendler
2021-05-23 19:55 ` João Távora
2021-05-23 20:14 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-23 21:04 ` João Távora
2021-05-23 21:31 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-23 21:54 ` João Távora
2021-05-23 22:38 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 22:46 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 3:06 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-25 9:21 ` João Távora
2021-05-26 18:12 ` João Távora
2021-05-26 19:32 ` Daniel Semyonov via Emacs development discussions.
2021-05-23 23:04 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-23 23:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-24 22:54 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 1:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-25 8:39 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 11:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-05-26 0:03 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 3:12 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-25 9:25 ` João Távora
2021-05-24 19:05 ` João Távora
2021-05-24 19:13 ` João Távora
2021-05-24 19:53 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 23:04 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 3:14 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-25 9:31 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 9:40 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 22:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-23 23:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-23 23:39 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-24 10:26 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 22:07 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-25 2:53 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-25 8:30 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 16:59 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-25 17:46 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 20:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-26 21:45 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-26 22:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-26 23:17 ` João Távora
2021-05-27 1:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-27 7:29 ` João Távora
2021-05-27 13:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-27 14:19 ` João Távora
2021-05-27 18:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-27 20:58 ` João Távora
2021-05-28 8:08 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 8:34 ` João Távora
2021-05-28 9:06 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 10:09 ` João Távora
2021-05-28 11:16 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 11:41 ` João Távora
2021-05-28 11:55 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 12:15 ` João Távora
2021-05-28 12:32 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 13:17 ` João Távora
2021-05-28 13:55 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 18:46 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-29 8:11 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 12:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-28 13:14 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 13:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-28 14:10 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-28 14:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-28 16:01 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 9:56 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 11:27 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 12:00 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 12:37 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 14:30 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 14:40 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 15:49 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 16:00 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 18:47 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 19:03 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 22:32 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 20:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-01 22:39 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 2:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-02 7:53 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-01 23:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-01 23:22 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 23:29 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 23:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 0:02 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 11:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 12:59 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 18:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 18:52 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 14:19 ` complexity in minibuffer (was: (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations) Stefan Monnier
2021-06-02 14:33 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 15:06 ` complexity in minibuffer Stefan Monnier
2021-06-02 15:20 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 15:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 15:37 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 18:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 18:30 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 15:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-02 15:45 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 15:59 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-02 16:29 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 15:53 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-02 18:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 19:03 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 20:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 22:11 ` Juri Linkov
2021-06-03 9:04 ` João Távora
2021-06-03 20:28 ` Juri Linkov
2021-06-01 15:58 ` [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations Stefan Monnier
2021-06-01 16:04 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-02 5:17 ` tumashu
2021-06-02 7:48 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 10:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 11:04 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 11:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 11:33 ` João Távora
2021-06-02 12:31 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-06-02 13:16 ` João Távora
2021-06-05 1:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-05 9:21 ` João Távora
2021-06-05 23:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-05 23:25 ` João Távora
2021-06-05 4:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-05 9:26 ` João Távora
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2021-06-05 23:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-06 2:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-02 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-02 14:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-02 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-02 15:07 ` João Távora
2021-06-05 1:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-05 9:16 ` João Távora
2021-06-01 14:47 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-06-01 14:53 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 14:58 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-06-01 15:06 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 15:33 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-06-01 15:41 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-06-01 15:09 ` João Távora
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2021-05-23 21:35 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-23 22:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-23 23:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-23 23:42 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-24 23:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-23 23:35 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-24 3:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-24 10:34 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 16:22 ` Caching where-is-internal (was: (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations) Stefan Monnier
2021-05-24 16:31 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 19:53 ` Caching where-is-internal Stefan Monnier
2021-05-24 20:07 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 20:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-24 20:45 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-24 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-24 21:52 ` [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations Juri Linkov
2021-05-24 22:41 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 1:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-24 22:37 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 16:53 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-25 17:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-25 17:40 ` João Távora
2021-05-25 20:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-25 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-05-25 20:46 ` João Távora
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