From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25581: 25.1; Incorrect statement in (elisp) `Hooks' Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <8e81acfe-ecaa-4fac-9484-24541b232ba1@default> <87k0xo83ww.fsf@gnus.org> <87zh6k6nok.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8603"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 25581@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 24 18:23:07 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAFFS-00028F-Na for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:20:47 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 07OGFHa8082496; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:20:46 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 333r9hfj52-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:20:46 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 07OGKj1m029788; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:20:45 GMT In-Reply-To: <87zh6k6nok.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5044.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9723 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008240131 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9723 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008240131 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186186 Archived-At: > But -functions variables are abnormal hooks. Yes. > -function variables aren't hooks at all. No, that's not correct. Some are and some aren't. You can't tell by a variable's name whether it's a hook. Convention can tell you, but unfortunately the name `*-function' does _not_ tell you. See my other posts today about this.