From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21667: 24.5; color-theme-buffer-local package misses a dependency Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <330aa056-9242-404e-aa8e-567034b262da@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444613364 7400 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2015 01:29:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 01:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21667@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ryo Furue Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 03:29:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRvK-0003aM-Ra for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 03:29:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51975 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRvJ-0007wc-JF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40346) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRvF-0007wN-PU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:29:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRvC-0005or-KD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRvC-0005on-HU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRvC-0001ff-BK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 01:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21667 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 21667-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21667.14446133136384 (code B ref 21667); Mon, 12 Oct 2015 01:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2015 01:28:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36596 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRui-0001eu-O5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:28:33 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:32550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlRug-0001el-KX for 21667@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:28:31 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t9C1STI8024399 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Oct 2015 01:28:29 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9C1SSk5015379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 12 Oct 2015 01:28:29 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9C1SSqI024703; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 01:28:28 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:107531 Archived-At: > For my education, may I ask which part of the emacs package system > (package.el ?) belongs to emacs proper? The whole thing? It's > always hard to know which part of a big system (another example is LaTeX) > is maintained by whom. Someone else can answer that better than I. But I think that all of the code involved specifically with accessing, downloading, and installing Emacs libraries belongs to Emacs. But perhaps it also depends on what you really mean - by "belong" and by "Emacs proper", for instance. Certainly `package.el' is the heart of what is involved, if it is not all of it, and that is part of GNU Emacs as distributed. > > It is unfortunate that when Emacs added "custom" themes it > > introduced a lot of confusion wrt custom themes vs color themes. > > This was compounded by some (rash) statements that the former > > somehow replaces the latter. The two are different, with only > > some overlapping features. > [. . .] >=20 > So, are both"theming systems" themselves part of emacs proper, even > if each theme is 3rd party? Dunno what "Emacs proper" means; sorry. `color-theme.el' is not included as part of GNU Emacs. It is a 3rd-party library.