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* bug#24095: 25.1; Insufficient documentation of minibuffer-related variables
@ 2016-07-28 15:00 Eli Zaretskii
  2016-07-28 16:10 ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-07-28 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 24095


This is a call for people who know their ways around the internals of
completion to please improve the documentation of the related
functions and variables.  I find their current doc strings inadequate,
and their documentation in the ELisp manual simply doesn't exist.

Here's a case in point.  This is a fragment from dired-diff:

  (interactive
   (let* (...
     ...
     (list
      (minibuffer-with-setup-hook
	  (lambda ()
	    (set (make-local-variable 'minibuffer-default-add-function) nil)
	    (setq minibuffer-default defaults))
	(read-file-name
	 (format "Diff %s with%s: " current
		 (if default (format " (default %s)" default) ""))
	 target-dir default t))

Suppose you want to figure out what does the minibuffer-setup-hook try
to accomplish.  Here's the doc string of the 2 variables it uses:

minibuffer-default-add-function:

  Function run by ‘goto-history-element’ before consuming default values.
  This is useful to dynamically add more elements to the list of default values
  when ‘goto-history-element’ reaches the end of this list.
  Before calling this function ‘goto-history-element’ sets the variable
  ‘minibuffer-default-add-done’ to t, so it will call this function only
  once.  In special cases, when this function needs to be called more
  than once, it can set ‘minibuffer-default-add-done’ to nil explicitly,
  overriding the setting of this variable to t in ‘goto-history-element’.

minibuffer-default:

  The current default value or list of default values in the minibuffer.
  The functions ‘read-from-minibuffer’ and ‘completing-read’ bind
  this variable locally.

If you can glean from these doc string (a) what is the significance of
minibuffer-default-add-function being nil, and (b) how the list in
minibuffer-default is used by the completion functions (so you could
decide, for example, what to put there), you are much smarter than I
am.  (The ELisp manual doesn't mention these variables at all.)

Other functions/variables that IMO should be considered for
documentation in the manual:

 minibuffer-avoid-prompt, minibuffer-history-case-insensitive-variables,
 minibuffer-default-add-completions

TIA




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