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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: VOTE: Changing completions-common-part face's default
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:15:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1df4b91-8c49-5e59-d804-c8ff2287dbcf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvv9rv68ay.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 07.11.2019 17:08, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>> which brings back the main objection to using it for prefix completion.
> 
> To be honest, I'm not completely sure what is the main objection.
> I chose `blue3` so far because while noticeable it seems to me that it
> doesn't affect the overall legibility nor makes the first-diff
> less noticeable.

Excessive highlighting is something we've been normally avoiding in 
Emacs, for its distracting properties.

> So, yes, it's "useless" highlighting for basic/prefix-completion, but
> that's pretty much a given.  "useless" is compatible with "harmless".

That's also true.

>> I recognize others feel differently, though.
>> So if blue4 also works for your stated goal, which is
> 
> I could live with "blue4" but it's significantly less visible, so
> I think the only role it could play is to advertise the existence of the
> face, but nothing else: I expect that very few people who want to see
> the common-part (e.g. because they're using flex) will find it
> sufficient, whereas I suspect that `blue3` would be "good enough" for
> a non-negligible fraction of those users.

Like Joao said, blue4 will seem like a half-measure, and I generally 
don't support those. So while I'd prefer my first suggestion (wait until 
flex is used universally), I'd like to retract my personal objection here.

blue3 is a good enough color, and it fits the default theme. So unless 
we can agree on a better idea, and unless other people object, let's go 
with blue3 and call it a day.

> It is better than what we have, IMO, so I'm willing to "retreat" to
> `blue4` for this "first step" if you really think `blue3` harms the
> basic/prefix-completion case.

If we have more time to think on this, I'd try to consider how to better 
help the pcmpl/flex cases by using completions-first-difference on more 
characters instead. And/or adding an extra face for the other 
"non-matching" characters.

For "fabrobazor" example and input "foo",

"abr", "b" and "az" would be highlighted with that new face. And "r" 
still with first-difference.

Information-wise, the result should be the same as highlighting the 
common part.

Not quite sure what colors to use, though.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-08 10:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-27  1:58 BIKESHED: completion faces Stefan Monnier
2019-10-27 11:34 ` João Távora
2019-10-27 21:45 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-28  0:43   ` João Távora
2019-10-28 22:29     ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-28 23:31       ` João Távora
2019-10-29 21:53         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-29 22:09           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-29 22:57           ` João Távora
2019-10-29  1:12       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-29 21:58         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-29 22:59           ` João Távora
2019-10-29 23:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-30  1:49   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-03 21:53     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-03 23:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-04 16:30         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-04 18:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-04 22:52           ` João Távora
2019-11-04 23:25             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 11:10               ` João Távora
2019-11-05 14:57                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 15:44                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-05 16:30                     ` João Távora
2019-11-05 21:27                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-05 23:06                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-05 22:01                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06  0:18                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-06  8:24                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 13:42                           ` VOTE: Changing completions-common-part face's default Stefan Monnier
2019-11-06 17:16                             ` João Távora
2019-11-06 17:26                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 18:10                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-06 22:20                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 22:42                                     ` João Távora
2019-11-06 22:57                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 23:14                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-07  8:09                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-07 10:27                                     ` João Távora
2019-11-07 13:27                                       ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-07 13:52                                         ` João Távora
2019-11-07 14:41                                           ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-07 14:57                                             ` João Távora
2019-11-07 16:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-07 16:09                                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-07 14:43                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-07 14:54                                             ` João Távora
2019-11-07 14:33                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-07 14:44                                         ` João Távora
2019-11-07 14:58                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-07 15:54                                             ` João Távora
2019-11-07 16:57                                               ` Drew Adams
2019-11-08 23:38                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-09  0:24                                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-09  1:53                                                   ` Drew Adams
2019-11-09 21:57                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-09 22:17                                                       ` João Távora
2019-11-09  7:30                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 11:42                                                     ` João Távora
2019-11-09 12:04                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 13:22                                                         ` João Távora
2019-11-09 16:44                                                     ` Drew Adams
2019-11-07 15:08                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-08 10:15                                       ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2019-11-08 19:19                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-08 19:43                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 21:42                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-09  6:52                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 15:25                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-09 15:52                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 16:17                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-08 20:11                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-08 22:57                                           ` João Távora
2019-11-06 23:12                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-05 16:31                   ` BIKESHED: completion faces João Távora
2019-11-05 22:22                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 23:11                       ` João Távora
2019-11-06  8:18                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06  8:53                           ` João Távora
2019-11-06 15:16                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 15:56                               ` João Távora
2019-11-06 10:25                           ` João Távora
2019-11-06 15:11                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 15:31                               ` João Távora
2019-11-06 15:43                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 15:48                                   ` João Távora
2019-11-06 16:01                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-06 16:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 21:36                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-07 14:25                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 22:40                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-08  6:43                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 16:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 16:14                             ` João Távora
2019-11-06  0:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-05 18:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-05 18:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-05 19:16                   ` João Távora
2019-11-05 19:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-05 21:43                       ` João Távora
2019-11-06 16:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 16:26                           ` João Távora
2019-11-06 18:07                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 18:14                               ` João Távora
2019-11-06 18:29                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 18:48                                   ` João Távora
2019-11-06 20:51                                   ` Ergus
2019-11-07 14:08                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 14:28                                       ` João Távora
2019-11-07 14:47                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 15:00                                           ` João Távora
2019-11-07 15:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 16:00                                               ` João Távora
2019-11-07 17:39                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 17:53                                                   ` João Távora
2019-11-07 18:16                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 18:37                                                       ` João Távora
2019-11-07 21:07                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 21:43                                                           ` João Távora
2019-11-08  6:35                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 10:15                                                               ` João Távora
2019-11-08 14:02                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 15:09                                                                   ` João Távora
2019-11-08 15:33                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 16:01                                                                       ` João Távora
2019-11-08 16:16                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 16:27                                                                           ` João Távora
2019-11-08 17:05                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 17:21                                                                               ` João Távora
2019-11-08 19:06                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 22:49                                                                                   ` João Távora
2019-11-09  6:57                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 11:20                                                                                       ` João Távora
2019-11-09 11:51                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 12:14                                                                                           ` João Távora
2019-11-09 12:19                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 13:29                                                                                               ` João Távora
2019-11-09 13:52                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-09 15:31                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 18:51                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2019-11-10  9:18                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14  9:45                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 10:40                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 14:16                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 14:19                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2019-11-14 14:42                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 14:49                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2019-11-16 20:10                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-16 23:40                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2019-11-17 17:27                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 17:47                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2019-11-08 12:58                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-08 13:08                                                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-08 14:07                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 20:34                               ` Drew Adams
2019-11-06 20:42                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-05 21:40                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 23:02                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-05 18:54                 ` João Távora
2019-11-05 19:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-05 21:39                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 21:54                     ` João Távora
2019-11-05 21:55                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 21:54                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 21:58                   ` João Távora
2019-11-05 22:03                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-05 22:07                       ` João Távora

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