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But > never mind. I am sorry if you feel this. > I would comment on what you said, but its meaning is vague. > > What, concretely, do you mean by the "original source"? > What does it mean to say it "has gone"? For example, the file CTLau.html is documented (in the readme) as: They are verbatim copies of those distributed by the author; they used to be at . Each file contains a license notice. (The license notice in question is GPL). My assumption is that CTLau.html is reformatted as part of the build because it might be updated from its original source. This would make sense to me: otherwise, why not reformat it once into a new source file. If this is the case, then it is no longer true, since the original source (given at that URL) does not exist. Again, I am making suppositions here. Shall we wait until handa san has responded? If he does not respond, we can either decide what to do anyway, or do nothing at all. A simpler build is nice, but not critical. Phil