From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242730 Archived-At: > > > Except it has "Recent input:" section 2 > > > pages down the report that may contain > > > sensitive data? >=20 > > Still, I don't think they will harm anyone... >=20 > On some occasions, it might do harm. >=20 > I have two ideas for changes: > * Ask whether to include this part. > * Inform people that they could delete it if > they don't want it posted to the bug tracker. Or offer the choice - via an option. For the second one, maybe provide a key that deletes that info, as opposed to making users find, select, and delete it. --- FWIW, 7 years ago I wrote some simple extensions to `emacsbug.el', which I use and make available as `emacsbug+.el'. (I suggested such extensions for Emacs, but there was no interest.) 1. There's an option that lets you choose which fields to include by default, when reporting a bug: `ebp-report-emacs-bug-included-fields'. 2. There are individual commands to insert each of the various fields, so you can easily include any that you don't choose to include by default. Most are bound to keys with prefix `c-o'. `ebp-insert-all' `ebp-insert-features' (`C-o f') `ebp-insert-load-path-shadows' (`C-o l') `ebp-insert-major-mode' (`C-o j') `ebp-insert-minor-modes' (`C-o n') `ebp-insert-recent-input' (`C-o i') `ebp-insert-recent-messages' (`C-o m') `ebp-insert-settings' (`C-o s') `ebp-insert-version' `emacsbug+.el' is here: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/emacsbug%2b.el