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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs"
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:12:45 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0840da6-4526-4e10-83c2-22a89f4800aa@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4kopghkq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> >     (setq frame-title-format "%b - GNU Emacs")
> >
> > Alternatively, I think one could also reasonably choose:
> >
> >     (setq frame-title-format
> >           '(multiple-frames "%b"
> >                             ("%b - GNU Emacs")))
> 
> Either is fine by me and better than what we have IMO.

Off the top of my head, in order of diminishing
strength of opinion:

1. Either is better than what we have now.

2. I prefer the second one, as it's more specific.

3. Generally, the more specific and informative, the
better.  If more than one bit of info is conveyed,
it's good to put the most important or most specific
bits leftmost, since narrowing the frame truncates
from the right.  To avoid: "GNU Emacs" _followed by_
more specific info.

4. Showing whatever is most important from the mode
line might be good.  At a minimum, that's %b.

If there's room, maybe after %b show the modes part
(and recursive-edit brackets).

Setting `frame-title-format' to `mode-line-format'
works, of course, but the order might not be the
most useful in general.  (But try it, just to get
the idea.)

5. Being able to, with a user option, filter out
bits of the mode-line (depending on what?) would
help.  E.g., for an Info buffer, the encoding,
read-only, mode, and `Narrow' indications aren't
needed/helpful.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-26 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-26 22:09 Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Stefan Kangas
2020-08-26 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-26 23:12   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-08-27  5:28 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27  5:55   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27  6:56     ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 14:52       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-27 15:04         ` tomas
2020-08-27 15:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-27 16:18       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 17:02         ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 17:28         ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-28  0:17       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-28  4:44         ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28  8:56           ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-28 19:03           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 19:55             ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28 20:36               ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 20:40                 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-28 21:18                   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-29  8:39                 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 16:35                   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-29 17:01                     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-29 18:25                     ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 20:19                       ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27  6:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27  7:20   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27  8:00     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27  8:03       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 14:35       ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-27 14:59       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 15:39         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-28  1:04     ` James Cloos
2020-08-28  4:46       ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28 19:09         ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 19:22           ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-28 20:07             ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28  9:18       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-28 13:00         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-29 23:08         ` James Cloos
2020-08-28 19:29       ` Tassilo Horn
2020-08-27  6:52 ` tomas
2020-08-27  9:07 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-27  9:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:06   ` Pip Cet
2020-08-27 17:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:36       ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-27 18:08         ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 17:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-27 17:52   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 22:06 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 23:39   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-29  1:20     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-30 23:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-31  7:58   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-31 14:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-31 14:46     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-31 14:52       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-31 15:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-31 15:48         ` Stefan Kangas
     [not found] <<CADwFkmnhA7TNqVpgG3jvPL+_33gYRwSK0z2ddvDpYXUu9qw-EQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<E1kBBSl-0007bb-1K@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<CADwFkmmP_CwHk48=v2YQVG3ODMQsBjcqqnGU_8H-pMsw_4irrw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <<E1kBCpo-0006ol-R1@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<E1kBCsX-00049o-5Z@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 15:05         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <<CADwFkmn2mJ2Mns3qyLUa-uWjOEB6zpSB=x3M9nK8q5gidn6iPg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <<E1kBJzg-0001FK-Eb@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 15:51           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 15:59             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 16:42               ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 17:23                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 17:50                   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 18:15                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 19:13                       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 19:20                         ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 17:49             ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 18:10               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 18:19                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 18:10               ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:22                 ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]             ` <<87a6yg9dyq.fsf@gmx.de>
     [not found]               ` <<E1kBMLt-00033R-SA@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:19                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 18:30                     ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]             ` <<<87a6yg9dyq.fsf@gmx.de>
     [not found]               ` <<<E1kBMLt-00033R-SA@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                 ` <<5f644f03-df12-4af0-8bd7-46152372df72@default>
     [not found]                   ` <<E1kBMUM-0003xd-MI@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-27 18:34                     ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:51                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 20:01                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]     ` <<m3sgc7mvh8.fsf@carbon.jhcloos.org>
     [not found]       ` <<CADwFkmkOjpGh-=FKXkuX31Hcuzku3=QdHHXzRvtWs6gEkpAN1Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <<E1kBdzV-0006sF-Ha@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-08-28 19:16           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-31  5:26             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-31  7:34               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01 18:23                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-31 12:02               ` Colin Baxter
     [not found] ` <<83y2m01me0.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-08-27 15:10   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 15:14     ` tomas
2020-08-27 15:24       ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 16:00         ` tomas
     [not found] ` <<CADwFkmk1dtqB8jjSgUHY0u0cetCUkhsDLTWF7JFT+8dxiAa3WA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <<83y2lux5hm.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-08-31 14:53     ` Drew Adams
2020-08-31 20:00       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01  3:22         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <b4cc3f5f-ef29-4b2c-b7f3-0a2572cd5869@default>
     [not found]           ` <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009011047360453.11413@sdf.lonestar.org>
2020-09-01 14:54             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-01 17:00               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01 20:31                 ` Stefan Monnier

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