From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18637: 24.4.50; doc of frame parameter DISPLAY vs actual value on MS Windows Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 19:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <<12fc196e-cc82-4f22-8d2f-cede95542ea7@default>> <<83vbnymi0h.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412564193 29444 80.91.229.3 (6 Oct 2014 02:56:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 02:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18637@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 06 04:56:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XayTJ-0001Y8-50 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 04:56:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49745 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XayTI-0002tL-SC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:56:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XayT6-0002p4-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:56:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XaySx-0007I1-93 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XaySx-0007Hx-6A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XaySw-00034y-V0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:56:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 02:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18637 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18637-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18637.141256416111821 (code B ref 18637); Mon, 06 Oct 2014 02:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18637) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2014 02:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35137 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XaySu-00034a-7R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:27760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XaySs-00034S-Aw for 18637@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s962tu4V009637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Oct 2014 02:55:57 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s962tt0r009640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Oct 2014 02:55:56 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s962ttQE022359; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 02:55:55 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83vbnymi0h.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:94196 Archived-At: > > In (elisp) `Basic Parameters' I see this description of frame > > parameter `display': > > > > The display on which to open this frame. It should be a string > > of the form `"HOST:DPY.SCREEN"', just like the `DISPLAY' > > environment variable. > > > > But if I evaluate `(frame-parameters)' on MS Windows I see this > > value for parameter `display': "w32". > > > > "w32" does not seem to fit the form `"HOST:DPY.SCREEN"'. What > > gives? >=20 > Emacs on MS-Windows doesn't support the notion of 'display', so all > frames return the same value of that parameter. OK, then the doc should mention this, or at least say that the string might not take the form "HOST:DPY.SCREEN" on some platforms, and preferably say something about what to expect on the exceptional platforms (and perhaps give some idea of what use the exceptional value is - what it can be used for, or what info it conveys). > > And why is that string surrounded by `...'? >=20 > An artifact of Texinfo markup. I see. Is that then correct, or should the `...' be absent? There are strings in the manual that are not surrounded by `...'. > > And why aren't the components of that "form" described: What are > > acceptable values for HOST, DPY, and SCREEN? >=20 > Users on X already know what they are; users on other systems don't > need to know, because this is not supported. Either way, this > notion is not an Emacs invention, it is a feature of the X > window system. Then please say that. E.g., say that the value is useful only for X Window, or only relevant for it. If the function itself has no use beyond X Window, then please make that clear.