From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21305: 25.0.50; `get-buffer-window-list' doc - what order? Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <<5430f5a7-2939-4f96-8c6c-3e820ffcfd6b@default>> <<55D74386.6010708@gmx.at>> <<7036da11-d296-45a9-b6ee-d7b68830927e@default>> <<55D74AA3.1070202@gmx.at>> <<1b17a036-c525-4dbc-84fa-cc8adc2b6488@default>> <<50fbb71c-8a6d-45b4-a467-a31bcc73ac09@default>> <> <<55D8195A.4040804@gmx.at>> <<9aa1dcd7-1781-41aa-bf47-7b280b26da1e@default>> <> <> <<83a8tji626.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440270209 10264 80.91.229.3 (22 Aug 2015 19:03:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21305@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 22 21:03:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE4N-00013R-O3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:03:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47858 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE4N-0003KJ-6J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44378) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE4J-0003Jk-99 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE4E-0005n0-9v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE4E-0005mw-7S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE4D-0005ny-VQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21305.144027012622254 (code B ref 21305); Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2015 19:02:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE3J-0005mq-Cp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:50940) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZTE3G-0005mX-J0 for 21305@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t7MJ1xBt002420 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:02:00 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t7MJ1wUS016836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:01:59 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t7MJ1wpx027265; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:01:58 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83a8tji626.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105712 Archived-At: > > (S?he should know whether the return value of `get-buffer-window- > > list' is a new list (it is), so that `sort' can be applied to it > > without causing problems elsewhere. For that, s?he will want to > > consult the code of `get-buffer-window-list'.) >=20 > I see no reason for consulting the source code, just to know whether > it's safe to sort that list. It would be silly, to say the least, > for Emacs to give Lisp programs direct access to a list that is used > internally by Emacs and whose order is important. IOW, it is safe > to assume that the returned list can be freely manipulated. Good to know. So any lists returned by functions in the source code are either new (conses) or there is no source code that points to them. That makes sense, but I wasn't sure it was sure to be the case.