From: Barry Margolin <barry.margolin@level3.com>
Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken?
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:03:06 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <_rzta.16$J33.1318@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wzznm18yg2.fsf@nono.cs.uu.nl
In article <wzznm18yg2.fsf@nono.cs.uu.nl>,
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.uu.nl> wrote:
>>>>>> bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) (B) wrote:
>B> 4) HIG violations - quitting
>
>B> On a Mac, all applications *must* quit when "Quit" is selected in the
>B> applications main menu (the one that carries its name). Further,
>B> applications *must* quit when the user choses "Quit" from the menu in
>B> the application's dock item. Finally, Cmd-Q is the designated keyboard
>B> shortcut for quitting.
>
>The Emacs keybinding for quit is C-x C-q. The problem is that if you use
>the `standard' Mac keybindings you are non-standard with respect with
>other emacsen.
Can't you have both? Does Emacs usurp the Command key for something else?
>B> 5) HIG violations - paste
>
>B> On a Mac, cut/copy/paste is Cmd-x/c/v. Emacs doesn't adhere to this,
>B> but in principle, this can be changed back to normal by defining
>B> keyboard macros.
>
>Same as above. The keybindings can be changed but then youhave to find
>alternatives for the rebound keys. On Windows there is a cua.el and some
>others that do this. It would be easy to adapt this to Mac style (Cmd-
>rather than Control-).
Again, can't you have both? The standard Emacs key bindings use the
Control key, while the standard Macintosh shortcuts use the Command key, so
there shouldn't be any conflict.
>B> 6) Emacs keyboard shortcuts
>
>B> Most of the Emacs keyboard shortcuts don't work. Bug or feature?
>
>What do you mean?
>I can use all normal Emacs keyboard commands.
I wonder if the OP is confusing the Command and Control keys.
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-05 6:00 Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-05 10:44 ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-05 20:03 ` Barry Margolin [this message]
2003-05-06 2:39 ` BK
2003-05-05 22:16 ` BK
2003-05-06 13:49 ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-07 15:09 ` BK
2003-05-05 10:45 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 21:52 ` BK
2003-05-05 22:50 ` Niels Freimann
2003-05-06 11:05 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 18:02 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-07 23:16 ` Emacs on Aqua (non-religious please) BK
2003-05-07 23:20 ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 12:07 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-08 13:24 ` tristero
2003-05-08 14:40 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 22:39 ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Henrik Enberg
2003-05-05 22:45 ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06 2:03 ` tristero
2003-05-07 14:51 ` BK
2003-05-07 15:17 ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07 23:48 ` BK
2003-05-08 2:16 ` David Eppstein
2003-05-08 19:39 ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06 8:33 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 13:58 ` BK
2003-05-06 14:45 ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-06 15:16 ` David Kastrup
2003-05-06 15:41 ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07 2:11 ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-07 16:15 ` BK
2003-05-07 16:40 ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 17:34 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 15:27 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 16:07 ` Oliver Scholz
[not found] ` <m2issoavgw.fsf@owlbear.local>
2003-05-06 18:01 ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06 18:28 ` Andrew Choi
2003-05-06 18:57 ` Ajanta
2003-05-06 18:41 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 19:12 ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 12:05 ` BK
2003-05-07 12:23 ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 17:38 ` BK
2003-05-07 19:24 ` Gilbert Harman
2003-05-07 20:04 ` Gilbert Harman
2003-05-07 11:35 ` BK
2003-05-07 12:09 ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 21:16 ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 13:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2003-05-07 19:28 ` BK
2003-05-07 21:39 ` Ajanta
2003-05-08 1:05 ` BK
2003-05-08 2:28 ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 18:54 ` Suggestion to BK Ajanta
2003-05-07 11:01 ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-07 11:18 ` Phillip Lord
2003-05-07 11:33 ` John Paul Wallington
2003-05-07 19:48 ` BK
2003-05-10 20:00 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-07 11:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-07 13:27 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 20:04 ` BK
2003-05-08 7:18 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-08 19:42 ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 21:55 ` Björn Lindström
[not found] ` <mailman.5689.1052308519.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 19:49 ` BK
[not found] <mailman.5694.1052313577.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 14:00 ` David Kastrup
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2003-05-07 14:10 niels freimann
[not found] <mailman.5712.1052338208.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-08 1:47 ` BK
2003-05-08 7:50 ` Rainer Joswig
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