From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:01:45 +0000 Message-ID: References: <055E6E92-6971-409E-A106-7E0C64FEF856@dancol.org> <87bk3r22x5.fsf@yahoo.com> <746FE961-37C5-4387-8274-7D90908EE2D6@dancol.org> <8734p3219c.fsf@yahoo.com> <867cefeo1w.fsf@gnu.org> <8734p03e94.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <867cec9ccl.fsf@gnu.org> <87v81vx12n.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3454"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , Daniel Colascione , Eli Zaretskii , Jeremy Bryant , stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 26 17:02:37 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sMUAO-0000hx-FU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 17:02:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMU9j-0007Il-8p; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:01:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMU9g-0007GZ-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMU9e-0007i1-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 9589 invoked by uid 3782); 26 Jun 2024 17:01:47 +0200 Original-Received: from muc.de (pd953ace7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.83.172.231]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 17:01:46 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 9793 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jun 2024 15:01:45 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.3; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320709 Archived-At: Hello, Stefan. On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:27:31 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > C-x 4 is not for window management commands, but for commands that > > influence which window the results of a future command are to be > > displayed in, and it has been so for a substantial period, so that users > > won't bat an eyelid before creating bindings keeping to this pattern. > > As such, it is perfectly logical to bind, say, ffap-other-window, in > > this keymap, but not every command that marginally relates to window > > management. > Since `C-x 4` is the prefix we use for "other window" prefix, what is > the most natural meaning we could give to `C-x 4 `? previous-buffer-other-window, of course. It might even be quite a useful command. > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).